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Sunday, 09/05/2004 7:06:07 PM

Sunday, September 05, 2004 7:06:07 PM

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Pacific Theatre WW III, China’s Taking of Tonga and Kiribati

Just as events in Europe determined the outcome of the Cold War, events in the Middle East will determine the fate of the terrorism fight, Bush said in a 45-minute foreign policy speech. He said that beyond jailing terrorists, free nations must nurture openness in oppressed societies to head off the resentment and anger that breeds violence.

He said such a transformation would take generations and was essential to America's security.
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Woolsey, a Wolfie pal, bluntly told U.C.L.A. students that to reshape the Middle East, the U.S. would have to spend years and maybe decades waging World War IV. – San Diego Union Tribune, note: They count the Cold War as World War III

But several of the hawks outside the administration who had pressed for war with Iraq have moved to the next step. R. James Woolsey, a former director of central intelligence, said Wednesday that Iraq was the opening of a "fourth world war," and that U.S. enemies included the fundamentalist religious rulers in Iran, states such as Syria and Islamic terrorist groups.
Woolsey seemed to be speaking for at least some in the administration. But Bush's aides will not discuss the future – yet.

"We don't want to talk about a broader agenda now," one of his aides said. "It's not the time. The time will come."
Excerpt from Bush aides deny war new aspect in foreign policy

By David E. Sanger
NEW YORK TIMES NEWS SERVICE
April 6, 2003

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They will tell us more about this world war after Bush is elected. One thing they have always realized is the naivety of the American people. The vision in their own words and actions is for the WORLD, a total war involving the entire planet, not just the Middle East.

One of George W Bush's "thinkers" is Richard Perle.
I interviewed Perle when he was advising Reagan; and when he spoke about "total war", I mistakenly dismissed him as mad. He recently used the term again in describing America's "war on terror". "No stages," he said. "This is total war. We are fighting a variety of enemies. There are lots of them out
there. All this talk about first we are going to do Afghanistan, then we will do Iraq... this is entirely the wrong way to go about it. If we just let our
vision of the world go forth, and we embrace it entirely and we don't try to piece together clever diplomacy, but just wage a total war... our children will sing great songs about us years from now."

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Note: Not only have they stated that this war will take generations or decades to wage this administration describes it as a ‘world war’ meaning it will span the globe. This is very clear they said they want a world war that will take generations or decades to fight. I am reluctant to call it World War IV so I will refer to the new world war as World War III.

-Am

see also:
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WW III - China 'destablising' Pacific nation
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China is trying to take back the strategically placed island of Kiribati. South of Kiribati the Chinese military influence was starting to replace that of Tonga's traditional partners.
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Tongan royal family scrutinised


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Tongan royal family scrutinised (02:23)

Sep 5, 2004

In Tonga the first signs of rebellion from former royal family supporters is threatening the stability of the nation.

The King, who handpicked his 12 cabinet ministers, was in Tonga's outer islands at an agricultural show when his sons sacked three ministers.

The dismissal of at least three cabinet ministers has led to protests against the monarchy's business interests.

"If the royal family continue with the decisions this week, the Government is going down," says businessman Sangster Saulala.

Sangster Saulala's television station has always been a staunch supporter of the royal family. But last week the station accused the royal family and government of corruption and flaunting the law in favour of its own business interests.

"I like the King, but now he is getting old. He is 86-years-old. I still have respect for him but what his children are doing is not right," says Saulala.

The king's children have made millions from selling the country's space satellite slots, providing power to the state electricity department and a host of other businesses.

But it is the crown prince's latest business venture, Tonga Air - which is believed to be at the centre of the ministers sackings. They objected when the prime minister awarded his brother the sole licence to fly Tonga's domestic market.

The conservative Kotoa movement has been holding secret meetings and a public protest is being discussed.

But many still support the King, if not his children and their decisions.

"The only thing that I have certainty of, is my love and loyalty to his majesty and for him. I can easily put my life down for him," says the Queen's niece Kololiana 'Otuangu Naufahu.


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