Joe and BOP, Another form of post grubbing is the grubbing of the total posts on a wesite: <A HREF="http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=300000" target="_new">http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=300000</A> <A HREF="http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=4004004" target="_new">http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=4004004</A> (Check the thread post number and the total post number, this was a magnificent grub) In most cases though the winners of these grubs don't even realise it: <A HREF="http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=333333" target="_new">http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=333333</A> Have fun, Phil P.S. #395000 is fast approaching.