Karen owns a whopping 8,355,512 shares. <a href="http://www.secform4.com/filings/915866/000120919109030930.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.secform4.com/filings/915866/000120919109030930.htm</a> Also check out <a href="http://www.secform4.com/insider-trading/915866.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.secform4.com/insider-trading/915866.htm</a> Back when the company first started there was alot of insider selling but here recently since Nov 2008 there's been alot of insider buying.. that's a really good sign.