Carl have you looked at the Pt/Rh ratio recently? Rh now at $1255 vs Pt at $855, almost a 50% premium, what it is "supposed" to be (vs last year $686 for Pt and a discount of 30% at $440 for Rh.) Of course, once Rh went to just a minimal premium, I suggested that hedge be closed, but now it is in full bloom. (#msg-1230445).