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Re: midas716 post# 110860

Wednesday, 05/20/2009 1:28:51 PM

Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:28:51 PM

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Thats only half true. The 'private board' you speak of was revealed here by me, many times, only to have the ones 'in charge' of this board at the time, whom were also members of the 'private board', completely laugh at, make fun of and completely DENY and delete the exsistence of that 'private board.' Now why was that?

I can't speak for them...but don't forget.... I was on the outside when you were with them. Looking back on it.... I see that they were being used and decieved and they all now know it. I can't tell you what was in their hearts...but it's my belief they just wanted a place to discuss things without the constant bashing they faced on this board. They wanted the board private....so it's also my opinion they felt it best to deny it's existance.....right or wrong I don't think they had any bad intentions.

Secondly the ones 'in charge' here did not leave here after that 'private board' was created. They remained here 'in charge'. In FACT, I know because I was there at that 'private board, information was posted there many times way before it became available here mostly by someone who claimed to have met Pedro in person and the rest who claimed he was very close with MT and claimed he spoke with him on an almost daily basis.

Again....I can't speak for them....but IMO they were just fed up with the bashing over here. They deeply believed they were involved in a great investment. Any time they shared anything over here they would get ridiculed. Eventually they just stopped sharing info.

Do you not remember some of my final posts on that private board. I left that 'private board' because I was not comfortable with the information flowing in and being spoon fed here. I left because the information flowing in was being posted by 'a few' who were claiming they were getting the information from MT and lastly because I knew after MT did not send out the wire transfers that this game was over.

I was not invited in until long after you left. Looking back on it...wouldn't you say the info was being spoon fed to them as well?

IMO the PANAMERSA UNDERGROUND was not formed because people here wanted privacy from the bashers , whom incidentaly were 110% correct. It was formed to spoon feed dis-information right here through honest investors they got to join that private board. For the record I believe you and most of the others were the honest ones. I have my suspicions on the 'few' who weren't.

Niether you or I can know what is in another mans heart...but
I know the guy who formed the underground and I can promise you the rest of the ones you speak of no longer support MT, Pedro or the Company. They were duped and they know it. In fact almost no one posts on the underground anymore and there are no supporters left.... period!

I'm not going to rehash all this. It's pointless. I called out MT the crook from the day the transfers didn't go through and was chastised here severely for it by those 'in charge' here. Thats the last I will speak on this subject. They know who they are and will eventually get whats due them.

It's my opinion MT is guilty of making promises that were not in his power to keep. I believe Pedro pulled the rug out from under his feet because of events beyond either of their control. The jury is still out on Pedro....I believe Pedro did what he had to do for the long range goals and strengh of the company. As I'm sure you are aware...Pedro promises investors will be rewarded when the embargo is lifted. I don't want to start an arguement about that. I'm just relaying info. I will say I have no intention of selling my shares. I'll just wait it out and see what happens.

One last point. As far as how those guys feel about you. They did not agree with you but that's not why they were so upset. They felt betrayed by you. The promise when joining the underground is that nothing ever leaves. This rule is to allow investors to speak their minds without being monitored by anyone the co. You betrayed them.

I'll probably get in trouble for this...but so be it..
Part of how we got to this point was the BS secrecy we were sucked into. First rule of any good con is to convince the mark the info is "secret". Perhaps there is need for secrecy due to the nature of Panamersa's holdings. (Cuba?) However all the crap MT pulled by making threats to anyone who insulted him or anyone in the co.......well we all know how that turned out.
Bottom line is.......I don't want to be part of any more secrets !!!







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