Open Standard and impact to the industry in China
Wen Gao, Ph.D
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Talking outline
Goal of standardization
Movement of current patent pool
Rebuilding a bridge between standardization and industry
Open standard impact to China
Goal of standardization
Handiwork vs machine manufacture
Any product has a chain in processing, from material, parts, technics, installation, …
If some parts in that chain controlled (can be taken) by few skill people, it is hard to make large volume/low price production, it is a handcraft production
For enable machine manufacture, standard and professional machine/workers are required
Goal of standardization(cnt)
Standardization is try to make mass production with good quality and low price
Easy to produce
Easy to package
Easy to install
Easy to change
Easy to test
Easy to cost down
Not control by few people/process
Parallel engineering
Enable parallel engineering
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Movement of current patent pool
Before understanding current situation, we need look back the patent pool
Patent pool
A patent pool is an agreement between two or more patent owners to license one or more of their patents to one another or third parties
Advantage of patent pool
Reduce transaction fees to obtain technology
Reduce the probability of litigation
Features of a patent pool
A technology standard that is definite and well defined
An evaluator/independent expert to determine which patents are essential, thereby defining a group of EPHs(essential patent holders)
A license drafted and approved by EPHs to allow to license technology on reasonable and nondiscriminatory basis
A patent pool administrator appointed by EPHs handle the administrative tasks
EPHs retaining the right to license the patents outside of the patent pool
History of patent pool
Phase I: 1856-1923, manufacture driven
In 1856, Sewing Machine Combination in US formed a patent pool for sewing machine manufactures
In 1917, a committee organized by Assistant Secretary of Navy, formed an aircraft patent pool for almost all aircraft manufactures in US
Phase II: 1924-2001, standardization driven
In 1924, Radio Corporation of America (early name: Associated Radio Manufactures), merged the interest of multiply companies, leading to the establishment for standardization of radio parts, airways frequency allocation, and TV transmission standard
In 1997, MPEG LA formed MPEG-2 patent pool, approved by DoJ
In 1998, Sony etc formed 3C patent pool for DVD
In 1999, Toshiba etc formed 6C patent pool for DVD
Phase III: date-, standardization & industry parallel driven
AVS starts to form AVS patent pool, by an interest group they are willing to promote technology thru mass production with low price license fees
DMP?
Difference between phase II and III?
Phase II
Standard group is separated from patent pool group
Standard group is hard to decide a technology should be adopted or reject, in term of simple licensing
It is easy to block the usage of standard, unless agree to charge a high license fees
Phase III
Standard group is connected with patent pool group
Standard group can decide to adopt or reject or around or avoid some technology, for making simple
It is hard to block the usage of standard if blocking patent owners all in pool
Voluntary Patent Pool vs Non-Voluntary Patent Pool
Are all patent pool should be voluntary patent pool?
No
US aircraft patent pool
Aids medicine patent pool?
Have you found any patent of nuclear technology in US?
Category of patent holders by intention
Use patent to promote new technology, =>partnership
Big companies who make product
Universities and research institutes who grant by government
Basis of AVS working group
Use patent to make money, =>around/avoid
Pay attention to not infringe their patents
Use patent to protect itself, =>friendship
work with
Problem of current patent pool
A worst case by DVD IP happening
In 2002, a DVD device cost 30$ in China major manufacture
They are asked to charge 19.5$ for IP using, later on into 9.5$
They got order in price of 30$ from US and EU sale channel
They could make balance either pay non-IP or get export-tax return from Chinese government
In 2004, a DVD device cost 20$ in China major manufacture
They are still asked to pay 9.5$ for IP
They are hunted by IP LA company
They decide to away from DVD manufacture
From now, DVD will manufacture by either major EC company(=expensive), or small company in China(=no quality guarantee)
Problem of current patent pool(cn’t)
Should manufacture pay the license?
No, consumer should pay
In above case, why Chinese manufacture pay usage fee for US/EU consumer?
In case manufacture pay, there should be a mechanism to refund that from consumer
Could license fee allow that high?
In 2002, 19.5$/(30+19.5)$=39%
In 2004, 9.5$/(20+9.5)$=32%
It is much higher (5-6 times) than the normal margin of major manufactures
Conclusion
The mechanism of license fee collection is not correct in practice
This mechanism hurt manufacture industry and then finally hurt consumers
It needs to be redesigned
Problem of current patent pool(cn’t)
What is wrong of MPEG-LA pool
The price is too high, comparing with the device cost
Charge to wrong group
Should do to end user
Or do to chip industry and software industry
Can current PLA body have capability to solve the problem?
Also not, reason?
Two separated steps
Make the standard first
Then create a patent pool
After standard fixed, there is a only way to go, determine the license term by all essential patent holder
The worst case is, some of patent holders what to use their patent to make big money, no matter how industry and customs feeling
It is very hard to change from their current way
How to balance between patent holder and consumers
It must give return to patent holder, for engaging continuous innovation
But we must protect manufacture to engage them to make more good and cheap product, to benefit consumers
How to do that?
Reasonable price and term
Right location to charge
Rebuilding a bridge between standardization and industry
Rethink the goal of standardization
Not for making money=>can do in not-profit-organization?
Don’t want to create a bottleneck controlled by someone
Making good quality and low price product to benefit consumers
A case study for new bridge
AVS activity in China
Audio Video coding Standard
Make a simple and low-cost industry standard
Use as more as we can the parts from MPEG, avoid/around disagreement for IPR policy
Co-design on both technology and IP
One-stop-shopping license
Integration of blocking technology from partners
Overview of AVS 1.0 Video
High-efficiency coding
Focused application – initially HDTV
Lower complexity, lower cost
Complete solution:
Video, audio, systems, DRM
This paper concerns video coding
Simple, comprehensive patent licensing
Open standard Impact to China
Organization of standard in China
SAC(Standardization administration of China)
Information standardization committees
AVS Working group
…
Open standard Impact to China(cn’t)
AVS, is a model learning by other standard working groups
Open standard
IPR policy
Manufacture following
Government support
State Commission of Development and reforming
Ministry of Information Industry
Ministry of Science and Technology
Standardization Administration of China
State Administration of Radio Film and Television
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Summery
Bridge?
Design standard and practical IPR policy in same time
Educate people to return the basic principle of standardization
Balance carefully between patent holder and industry
AVS
www.avs.org.cn/en
More info?
Email: wgao@jdl.ac.cn
http://www.jdl.ac.cn
Questions?
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Thanks
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Wen Gao, Ph.D
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Talking outline
Goal of standardization
Movement of current patent pool
Rebuilding a bridge between standardization and industry
Open standard impact to China
Goal of standardization
Handiwork vs machine manufacture
Any product has a chain in processing, from material, parts, technics, installation, …
If some parts in that chain controlled (can be taken) by few skill people, it is hard to make large volume/low price production, it is a handcraft production
For enable machine manufacture, standard and professional machine/workers are required
Goal of standardization(cnt)
Standardization is try to make mass production with good quality and low price
Easy to produce
Easy to package
Easy to install
Easy to change
Easy to test
Easy to cost down
Not control by few people/process
Parallel engineering
Enable parallel engineering
Click to add text
Movement of current patent pool
Before understanding current situation, we need look back the patent pool
Patent pool
A patent pool is an agreement between two or more patent owners to license one or more of their patents to one another or third parties
Advantage of patent pool
Reduce transaction fees to obtain technology
Reduce the probability of litigation
Features of a patent pool
A technology standard that is definite and well defined
An evaluator/independent expert to determine which patents are essential, thereby defining a group of EPHs(essential patent holders)
A license drafted and approved by EPHs to allow to license technology on reasonable and nondiscriminatory basis
A patent pool administrator appointed by EPHs handle the administrative tasks
EPHs retaining the right to license the patents outside of the patent pool
History of patent pool
Phase I: 1856-1923, manufacture driven
In 1856, Sewing Machine Combination in US formed a patent pool for sewing machine manufactures
In 1917, a committee organized by Assistant Secretary of Navy, formed an aircraft patent pool for almost all aircraft manufactures in US
Phase II: 1924-2001, standardization driven
In 1924, Radio Corporation of America (early name: Associated Radio Manufactures), merged the interest of multiply companies, leading to the establishment for standardization of radio parts, airways frequency allocation, and TV transmission standard
In 1997, MPEG LA formed MPEG-2 patent pool, approved by DoJ
In 1998, Sony etc formed 3C patent pool for DVD
In 1999, Toshiba etc formed 6C patent pool for DVD
Phase III: date-, standardization & industry parallel driven
AVS starts to form AVS patent pool, by an interest group they are willing to promote technology thru mass production with low price license fees
DMP?
Difference between phase II and III?
Phase II
Standard group is separated from patent pool group
Standard group is hard to decide a technology should be adopted or reject, in term of simple licensing
It is easy to block the usage of standard, unless agree to charge a high license fees
Phase III
Standard group is connected with patent pool group
Standard group can decide to adopt or reject or around or avoid some technology, for making simple
It is hard to block the usage of standard if blocking patent owners all in pool
Voluntary Patent Pool vs Non-Voluntary Patent Pool
Are all patent pool should be voluntary patent pool?
No
US aircraft patent pool
Aids medicine patent pool?
Have you found any patent of nuclear technology in US?
Category of patent holders by intention
Use patent to promote new technology, =>partnership
Big companies who make product
Universities and research institutes who grant by government
Basis of AVS working group
Use patent to make money, =>around/avoid
Pay attention to not infringe their patents
Use patent to protect itself, =>friendship
work with
Problem of current patent pool
A worst case by DVD IP happening
In 2002, a DVD device cost 30$ in China major manufacture
They are asked to charge 19.5$ for IP using, later on into 9.5$
They got order in price of 30$ from US and EU sale channel
They could make balance either pay non-IP or get export-tax return from Chinese government
In 2004, a DVD device cost 20$ in China major manufacture
They are still asked to pay 9.5$ for IP
They are hunted by IP LA company
They decide to away from DVD manufacture
From now, DVD will manufacture by either major EC company(=expensive), or small company in China(=no quality guarantee)
Problem of current patent pool(cn’t)
Should manufacture pay the license?
No, consumer should pay
In above case, why Chinese manufacture pay usage fee for US/EU consumer?
In case manufacture pay, there should be a mechanism to refund that from consumer
Could license fee allow that high?
In 2002, 19.5$/(30+19.5)$=39%
In 2004, 9.5$/(20+9.5)$=32%
It is much higher (5-6 times) than the normal margin of major manufactures
Conclusion
The mechanism of license fee collection is not correct in practice
This mechanism hurt manufacture industry and then finally hurt consumers
It needs to be redesigned
Problem of current patent pool(cn’t)
What is wrong of MPEG-LA pool
The price is too high, comparing with the device cost
Charge to wrong group
Should do to end user
Or do to chip industry and software industry
Can current PLA body have capability to solve the problem?
Also not, reason?
Two separated steps
Make the standard first
Then create a patent pool
After standard fixed, there is a only way to go, determine the license term by all essential patent holder
The worst case is, some of patent holders what to use their patent to make big money, no matter how industry and customs feeling
It is very hard to change from their current way
How to balance between patent holder and consumers
It must give return to patent holder, for engaging continuous innovation
But we must protect manufacture to engage them to make more good and cheap product, to benefit consumers
How to do that?
Reasonable price and term
Right location to charge
Rebuilding a bridge between standardization and industry
Rethink the goal of standardization
Not for making money=>can do in not-profit-organization?
Don’t want to create a bottleneck controlled by someone
Making good quality and low price product to benefit consumers
A case study for new bridge
AVS activity in China
Audio Video coding Standard
Make a simple and low-cost industry standard
Use as more as we can the parts from MPEG, avoid/around disagreement for IPR policy
Co-design on both technology and IP
One-stop-shopping license
Integration of blocking technology from partners
Overview of AVS 1.0 Video
High-efficiency coding
Focused application – initially HDTV
Lower complexity, lower cost
Complete solution:
Video, audio, systems, DRM
This paper concerns video coding
Simple, comprehensive patent licensing
Open standard Impact to China
Organization of standard in China
SAC(Standardization administration of China)
Information standardization committees
AVS Working group
…
Open standard Impact to China(cn’t)
AVS, is a model learning by other standard working groups
Open standard
IPR policy
Manufacture following
Government support
State Commission of Development and reforming
Ministry of Information Industry
Ministry of Science and Technology
Standardization Administration of China
State Administration of Radio Film and Television
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Summery
Bridge?
Design standard and practical IPR policy in same time
Educate people to return the basic principle of standardization
Balance carefully between patent holder and industry
AVS
www.avs.org.cn/en
More info?
Email: wgao@jdl.ac.cn
http://www.jdl.ac.cn
Questions?
Click to add sub-title
Thanks
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