agent .. as we've discussed previously i actually am *familiar* with folks who did pp ~ they do so with a time frame slightly longer than the lifespan of a *gnat* which is why it helps to remember that aero lost 2 q's .. in 2008 ~ one factors all into the mix .. of the business plan ~ and time frame ~ and it's why *i* give all co.s at this level ~ *on avg* .. 3 to 5 years i suspect others will do so as well ~ where aero is concerned ~ remember there is the co. and then there is the stock ~ -- 4kids all jmo