still don't have proof of dilution, i'm not saying it isn't happening, but there is no proof that the reason this stock isn't going up is because it hasn't done anything yet. I would like to know what joe, bucks and anybody else think this stock is worth and based on what numbers. for example: bbda is a stock with product in the stores that you can use, it is at what .001? why would this stock be in any way comparable to that at this point, enough to start complaining about it?