Thanks Dan. Very kind of you to keep me posted. I wanted to thank you for your private email regarding MRB a little while back, but I'm on the cheapo subscription and it wouldnt let me do it. Anyway, I appreciate your willingness to share. Thankfully (at least from the looks of it today) I sold MRB when this issue first arose, so I'm not involved in that one any more. At the moment I'm only suffering with MNG on the PM side. It's a stick in the mud!