By the way, we are far from being newbee's! we? are you a group effort? Can I assume, you'all bought shares in ABV months or years ago? Are you comfortable knowing that this is just a shell that has changed names and business ventures? Are you comfortable with the people from ABV that are still involved? Many here welcome the opportunity to regain some or all of their losses. Losses based on the ABV PR'd ventures. Or now, any venture that can raise the pps. Welcome to the board.