Johnny, you are talking smack, who knows for what reason, all i want to know is where are the financials and how quickly we can get them published....if they never get published or things are as you describe, we will find out soon enough...i guess i do have a question for you and all other "good people" like you, why would holt and sinclair hold CC if company is getting ready to go to 0? I guess your answer would be - they are both pathological liers? o, and do not forget Larry M..