I cant remember, because I have bought this stock at so many different times, and prices, and I only remember trying to convince the broker that it was a good company, and all the happenings that were going to take place, so it would have definitly been before Gabe, because I still had hope, I just never purchased anymore after that. Kathy if this is really you, I have talked to you on the phone, we chatted like we were best friends- we talked about more then this stock. Write back please.