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Re: downtimepg post# 338541

Thursday, 06/26/2008 1:19:44 PM

Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:19:44 PM

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your premise of Australia having an increase in gun deaths after gun control was invoked is not supported by the statistics.

Australia forced the surrender of nearly 650,000 personal firearms in 1997. A study published in 2001[104] shows a 47% decrease of firearms related deaths.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics

however, in fairness, the same result was not achieved in the U.S. cities that tried it. The statistics do not support the premise i was taking about gangs. In the interest of fairness of debate, here is some stats from handgun control in the U.S.:

The National Center for Policy Analysis, a conservative think tank, reported the following statistics:[98]

New Jersey adopted what sponsors described as "the most stringent gun law" in the nation in 1966; two years later, the murder rate was up 46% and the reported robbery rate had nearly doubled.

In 1968, Hawaii imposed a series of increasingly harsh measures, and its murder rate tripled from a low of 2.4 per 100,000 in 1968 to 7.2 by 1977.

In 1976, Washington, D.C., enacted one of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation. Since then, the city's murder rate has risen 134% while the national murder rate has dropped 2%.


However, if you run the data further out, those large gains in deaths dropped back down to the original levels within 20 years, so i am not sure that a conclusion of increased gun control decreases gun deaths is warranted in the U.S.







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