ElderWolf, I still can't figure out why NVEI couldn't just get a simple bank loan in the current low interest rate environment, with many banks anxious to make loans. I wonder if they even tried to go that route. If I get the opportunity, I'll ask Ketch about that. I also have a few questions about the Adaptive deal and MIDWEST AND LURKING'S group's interest in a buy-out. His comments should be most interesting. I'll probably have to wait out the "quiet period" in order to have any kind of chance to get some info.