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Sunday, 05/18/2008 7:31:47 PM

Sunday, May 18, 2008 7:31:47 PM

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Apparently, not all the infomation is correct, according to one iHub poster:

Posted by: The Cap'm
In reply to: hawk who wrote msg# 349 Date:5/18/2008 3:58:49 PM

This is interesting discussion.

So, it sounds like your point is that the outfit in Houston structures shell deals for stock operators to get their hands on rasing money through the public equity markets. This doesn't necessarily mean that the people that the Houston outfit helps set up in the share printing business are all bad. Some of these people are well intentioned and may actually have a decent business idea, but find out later they have chosen to associate with serial stock promoters who are only interested in their own situation.

I think these posters you are replying to are familiar with the chain of stock promotions the people involved with this stock have organized in the past. So, in a way, it's guilt by association.

Whether people trying to start a business do these things unwittingly or not is a great topic for discussion.

The only issue I have is that the discussion is more broad than AETE and there could EASILY be a new place on iHub to discuss the Hoston bunch operating these stock promotions.

I'd be glad to start such a thread, if I could verify specifics like:

A business umbrella name (not a d/b/a)
Principals
Address
Phone number

In other words, if they have a lease, what's the business name on the lease? That's a good place to start.

All property records in Texas are public -- and organized by county.

Here's where anyone can go look up Harris County (Houston) records, although their address may not be in Harris Co, but a nearby county -- maybe one of the other posters you are replying to will have these particulars:

http://www.hcad.org/records/default.asp

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Posted by: hawk
In reply to: The Cap'm who wrote msg# 350 Date:5/18/2008 4:20:24 PM
Post #of 360

I'm just saying your is information wrong and throwing out names for the sake of doing that is malicious at best. Do whatever you wish, but I will reiterate, you have included people that are not part of these companies and have no association with them. Post whatever you like if that makes you feel better. But you should have concrete info before you sling mud.

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Posted by: hawk
In reply to: The Cap'm who wrote msg# 350 Date:5/18/2008 4:25:00 PM
Post #of 360

I think these posters you are replying to are familiar with the chain of stock promotions the people involved with this stock have organized in the past. So, in a way, it's guilt by association.

That's assuming they are associated with them. That's exactly my point, their not. Go after the real scam artist and leave those who do not have anything to do with it, out of it.

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Posted by: The Cap'm
In reply to: hawk who wrote msg# 352 Date:5/18/2008 4:42:42 PM
Post #of 360

So, you have information that there are people named here you want to defend that are not involved with stock promotions and have never been involved with a publicly traded company.

Is that what you are saying?

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Posted by: hawk
In reply to: The Cap'm who wrote msg# 353 Date:5/18/2008 5:17:14 PM
Post #of 360

Your information and the names you are posting are wrong, that's what I'm saying, whatever, post misleading info if you want,

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Posted by: The Cap'm
In reply to: hawk who wrote msg# 354 Date:5/18/2008 5:30:54 PM
Post #of 360

I'm sorry. What names have I posted?

You are welcome to correct what's been posted here all you want. I think you were trying to do this earlier. You said:

Posted by: hawk
In reply to: zekel who wrote msg# 290
Date: 5/18/2008 12:00:34 AM

Some of your information is wrong, Schiller has not resided in Houston for the past year and a half( Jan 2007) and Mizrahi resigned in Dec. 2006, he has no involvement with any company either. Get your facts straight before you post.


And, you said:

Posted by: hawk
In reply to: Robinhood2 who wrote msg# 334
Date: 5/18/2008 10:39:36 AM

Yes, I can, but I won't, he lives in California, not associated to any of the companies you mentioned resigned in January, 2006. In fact he is unemployed and aback in school. Oren lives in Houston but sell Diamonds.

1. So you are saying that Schiller (Mark?) was not involved with this public company (AETE), correct?

2. Are you also saying Schiller was not involved with any public company? I don't think you are, but I want to be clear.

3. You are saying that Mizrahi (Oren?) was not involved with this public company (AETE), correct?

4. And finally, Mizrahi (Oren?) was not involved with any public company?

I am trying to help you clear up any information you feel may be incorrect.

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Posted by: hawk
In reply to: The Cap'm who wrote msg# 355 Date:5/18/2008 6:29:55 PM
Post #of 360

1 and 3 correct, neither has ever had any involvement with AETE.
2 Schiller has worked for many public companies, including Enserch(Multi billion dollar corporation). Pool Company and Sabine. Worked for GFET and resigned, after three months.
4. Mizrahi was with GFET and gave up his shares and left after three months.

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Posted by: The Cap'm
In reply to: hawk who wrote msg# 356 Date:5/18/2008 6:35:35 PM
Post #of 360

Both have impressive backgrounds, based on what you posted there.

They weren't involved long. Both left after just 3 months? That's a very short tenure.

I won't assume, but is it your opinion that these two were into something they didn't want to be a part of, and got out quickly?

If you know why they got out, that might be informative.

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Posted by: hawk
In reply to: The Cap'm who wrote msg# 357 Date:5/18/2008 6:51:36 PM
Post #of 360

All I can tell you is that both felt unconformable in the environment and did not want to be used as pawns or scapegoats if things went awry or was not as was being painted. There was no compensation, just the promise of it, who works for free ? Both did not see a rosy future with the company and wanted to avoid any problems.

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Posted by: The Cap'm
In reply to: hawk who wrote msg# 358 Date:5/18/2008 6:55:11 PM
Post #of 360

A lot of people work for free when any business is a startup. They take deferred comp or shares as comp betting on the future.

It sounds like they got uncomfortable pretty fast.

Hopefully this discussion has satisfied your concerns in some way.

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Posted by: hawk
In reply to: The Cap'm who wrote msg# 359 Date:5/18/2008 7:05:32 PM
Post #of 360

I think should be clear and specially that those two have never has any involvement whatsoever with AETE or any ongoing association with the other individuals mentioned.


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