GoldenZ I believe that Outboard is Mark Lefkowitz even though there is a lawyer in TCI running face. The "faxed from" number in court documents on a past debenture is Lefkowitz's in NJ. Lefkowitz ran Compass Capital Group. <a href="http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2008/lr20525.htm" target="_blank">http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2008/lr20525.htm</a> Derb