do not know where you live but a simple test of the truth of your assertion >>>Well hap, bad times will come for them too. We've had our experiment and it's beginning to fail<<< would be the traffic that all of us (they) endure as we go about our (their) daily lives just back from Key West heavy traffic down and back maybe a 100 miles in construction widening I95 (and US1) (I95 to three lanes (or more) each way -- US1 to two lanes thru the first Keys) how is it in your area ? (I understand traffic jams a real problem in the counties memtioned}