Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

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And the Chinese got to that position by flowing Marxist economic policy???

Fair enough, they've adapted, but are you suggesting they've gone to laissez faire capitalism? Or are they still a centrally managed economy?

As to your point that actual communism has failed, who was ever practicing Marxism really? I've heard of a few who said they were, but no one's ever tried it on much of a scale. I think Tito's Yugoslavia was pretty close and halfway successful. And I think the basic Israeli Kibbutz is a real commune and successful too, but not as popular as it once was. I think hybrids are what will eventually work. Straight capitalism looks like a Dickens novel and it's unacceptable in the end to the vast majority.