zeev: "It is always darkest before (the) dawn"...your record is impressive, so it's tough to argue with you, but purely on a humorous note, there is a twist to that phrase: "It is always darkest before it goes completely black"...i know that doesn't not apply to your thinking here (and i intend to buy tomorrow morning's dip), but perhaps that humorous twist WILL apply on our journey to DAQ 950 in 2005/2006, when folks buy the numerous "dips" off the summer highs