thanks for chiming in rob sorry to say <nah not really> i don't follow nascar imo the brand recognition that aero is achieving there .. is just one layer of their marketing strategy again .. there is so much more eco .. green .. foreign oil .. patriotic stirrings .. funky sound <that i can attest to as i own the product> all sorts of layers to be penetrated yep it's a marketer's dream ho hum --- 4kids all jmo