4god 1 and 4 can not overlap except in EDs and BDs. Your wave 4 count is is possible I just see it a little different.( still in 4b) It is very hard to count waves correctly using candles. lines or ticks work best for me. I really like this link for counting gold. <A HREF="http://www.netdania.com/ChartApplet.asp?symbol=XAUUSDOLITEx/tenfore" target="_new">http://www.netdania.com/ChartApplet.asp?symbol=XAUUSDOLITEx/tenfore</A> Frank