Gary, it might help you to understand the historians that they are still fighting yesterday's battle and choose to remain blind to today's events. The old saying that "there are none so blind as those who will not see" seems to be the appropriate and operative thought for them. The difficulty they are having with Swope's appointment is doing them incalculable distress and harm since they are being hung by their own words vs. Swope's vaulted stature in the telecom world. Keep the faith. Rob