Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD)

[pgerassi]

Wbmw:

Where can you gat a E8500? There is no listings showing any are in stock anywhere. OK, samples might be available to reviewers and OEMs, but that isn't available. Even Intel lists them as "January 2008", not "Available" as they do for any shipping CPU. I see from SI the earliest one estimated to be available is 1/31/08 and it isn't the E8500.

Thus for available CPUs, none are faster than what Intel already is shipping. And it will be that way for quite a while. And Kuma is in the "foreseeable future". So is the 65nm A64 X2 5600 at 2.9GHz (to be released this month IIRC). So your statement is wrong on the face of it.

Why didn't Xbit test the 6400+ under load? They were benchmarking it on all of the other pages. Perhaps it got quite a bit less than 114.6W. BTW, that is likely the 6000+ Xbit labs has had for over a long time (about a year IIRC). And oh did they add in the memory controller and FSB power to the Wolfdales? NO! Nice comparing apples to grapes. They could also have used the unlocked black edition A64 X2 5000+ and just upped the clock multiplier. I hear that many of those get to 3GHz fairly easy. This one got to 3.396GHz and at 3Ghz didn't use much more power than it did at 2.6GHz:

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/athlon_x2_5000_black_box/12.html

Notice how the 3GHz settings beats a 3.2GHz 6400+ on the other pages. So it at 3.396GHz uses less power than a 6400+ or the older 6000+ that Xbit labs used for its power tests.

So why did Xbit not test against the best 65nm AMD CPU?

And are you forgetting about 45nm Shanghai in H2 2008? You did forget about Kuma in Q2. So your "foreseeable future" is so filled with blind spots, no one should take it without diving into the Milwaukee DPW's pile of road salt.

Pete