NovoM: Jake indeed was most influential to countless people whom and how much he influenced he never even realized...I have regrets now, I wish I emailed him and told him so...I am a tough woman and not emotional...but...in "down" time such as just now...I went back read through posts and I do get emotional because of the fact that he was very ill and I was in denial of that and just reading cisco's posts about him etc....anyhoo....I hope LMRI is out there somewhere and shows us a post even if it's a "..." Nice to read your post as Liz said, Jake was a very good man and I missed meeting him by a matter of 5 minutes...wish I had gotton there sooner....