Tele, Steve Kamman on CNBC from CIBC World Markets just said "(~)LU shouldn't be rising". He didn't say the word valuation, but he may as well have. He agrees with me ;) heh heh If others feel that way, LU won't rise into the shorting. We've seen LU keep NT down for years. The question here is: "will that pattern change?" I maintain that when the smoke clears, the same institutions that were working LU and NT will get back to bidness as usual. But, as you know, crow is my favorite entree. Ben