Phil...methinks I'm too age-conscious these days (that nasty birthday is coming up soon)... Your 29th? Get over it. I gotta remember the old adage: One is only as old as they feel. Aw nutz, let's face it... ... it's a bunch of crap! It's not a bunch of crap. I still wonder who the old fart is that looks at me in the mirror every morning. Have a good day, Phil...going shopping now. Perhaps it will ease the pain... You going to spend $200K of hubbies money so you can get a $2k "discount" on the next car? LOL Have fun, Phil