to take my point further... at some point the radical right nuts will consider sperm and unfertilized eggs potential life forms and outlaw any form of discharge thats not initiated by physiological body function as in menstruation, miscarriage, wet dreams, or sex for procreation purposes only... in other words, at what point are you and the absurd side going to say that "M word" is unnatural and should be outlawed as its wasting a chance at life? isnt self induced male spillage causing at least one less opportunity for life to begin. how dare you waste that precious opportunity for life..you know thats where your side will take the fight next... isnt that where the "gonna go blind" stories started... weve been down this absurd avenue before...you just dont want to be oopposed to anything you indulge in...