Janice - can I joint the party? I am really starting to enjoy your point of view, perhaps I will turn into jani-ism. ok so we give PAIM credit for some things and not for others right? They are a questionable company? can you elaborate on that please? They obviously know how many shares they issued into the market. hmm!! I guesss they know how to count then. Ok lets mix those two together. questionable? + know how to count = Last attempt to make money? Everywhere I look has a different # for the float is it 7.2 billion? 8.6 billion? or 15 billion? What the heck? This sounds like the ability from the US to print money to buy international oil. manipulation?