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Re: chunga1 post# 515

Saturday, 07/07/2007 1:51:32 AM

Saturday, July 07, 2007 1:51:32 AM

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Zbiegniew Brezenski, says,

"Nonsense!
It is said that the West had a global policy in
regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam."

So said, Zbiegniew Brezenski, .. YOU MUST HAVE KNOWN!?


as you guys are have supported fundamentalist Islamics
since

Notes on a time of crisis

November 02, 2001

The conventional narrative goes like this: the Soviets invaded Afghanistan in December 1979, leading the U.S. to fund the resistance fighters who would later become the Taliban. In other words, the U.S. only acted in response to Soviet aggression.

There is the official version of history, and then there is the reality. In a 1998 interview, Zbiegniew Brezenski offered a glimpse of the latter:

* * * *

Le Nouvel Observateur (France), Jan 15-21, 1998, p. 76,
translation Bill Blum

Q: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs, From the Shadows, that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention.

THAT INTERVENTION BY YOUR COUNTRY ACTUALLY DID SUUUUUUUUUCK!!! THE SOVIETS INTO AFGHANISTAN .. as Zbiegniew Brezenski, had suggested it might.

SO I GUESS IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT YOUR FOREIGN POLICY CAUSED THAT WAR , TOO ..or is that pulling a long bow .. chunga, about here you have to be kidding.

In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they [entendaient] to fight against a secret [ingérence] of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic [intégrisme], having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

B: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated: Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

B: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.

http://www.thismodernworld.com/pages/jour/jour_11_2.html

sincerely fuagf ..







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