I didn't do enough, apparently, but I did call the companines in question, after a lot of work trying to find some phone numbers. They are not very well known, and I doubt the revenues that were mentioned earlier by another poster are valid. I still consider a lot of what WRNW is saying are carrots in front of the mule. And this silence from them is deafening. Not a good thing, to fiddle while Rome burns, IMO./