re: iHub's new folder feature [about 20% "done"]
This is a reply to Bob Zumbrunnen's post on this board,
directed to everyone, with my gotmilkSpeak added :o)
Message In Reply To: [my babble in square brackets]
[Start.]
... [new folders] feature is only about 20% "done" right now.
[are] numerous additions [too] many to list, but here's
a partial list off the top of my [Zeev like perfect] head
[the creator decided should not to be covered with hair
once the powerful brain contained within achieved full
security health happiness and wealth to my family.]
1. everyone gets a [trash can] folder
2. ability to file [trash can] messages
3. able to move multiple messages to same folder
4. ability to delete and rename folders
5. a "Return [message] to MailBox" function
6. move messages from one folder to another [maybe]
7. "Kept" msg marked "UnKept" once [filed]
8. Advanced Search [into] Folders
... haven't yet decided how to handle the trash-can.
... likely set iHub up [with SI's illusion] when removed
from [trash can] no longer visible in that folder [but] accessible
via searches and following reply chains backwards.
... still haven't decided whether or not to make this
a Premium Feature. I'm leaning toward Premium...
While this feature is still under development, I'll keep it
available to everyone [free] registered members will be able
to use it all they like. And if I later decide to make it
a Premium feature, I'll move filed freebie messages back
to their MailBoxes before zapping their folders.
[End.]
Bob,
Please follow this guiding principle: "First, do no harm."
Translates from the Latin: "primum non nocere"
"Pay just as much attention to the means, as to the ends."
(or, learn from your iHub's history)
Last year you gave to all FREEs that Filter/Ignore feature,
and then tried to make it a Premium feature.
The outcry was quick & loud to "force" you to change,
therby giving FREEs a limited version.
That very old Chinese saying:
"Easier to give than to take away."
I would like to connect the outcry of this week about ads,
those that move & flash & make sounds, and cause even
those of solid sanity to experience flashes of insanity :o)
Move iHub's revenue source towards a "pay for" service
to dominate over the ad revenue generated by the FREEs.
Current trends for ad blockers will eventually place them
into use for everyone as they will be automatic additions
for new computers, or added to new software updates.
Eventually the ad revenue will be obtained using a model
that will target specific groups of people that have already
expressed an interest in certain products, and these ads
will be contained inside web pages not "forced" onto users,
but available for them as store fronts similiar to a person
walking down a street and seeing signs over doors.
For iHub and SI there will be an entrance door to click on
that will list iHub pages one can visit like entering a store,
and might be formated similiar to iHub's alread boards.
The extreme case is that unregistered and FREEs will view
iHub's posts ad free, and if so then another carrot on a stick
is needed to cause them to obtain a Premium membership.
My view is that if all FREEs eventually turn off ads,
then its best to limit the features they are able to access.
For sure the new folder feature should NOT be FREE available.
Happy Hour will allow FREEs to discover and use all features
available to Premium, but after Happy Hour they cannot access,
for example their folders made & used during Happy Hours.
On the possibility of being Tarred & Feathered by FREEs,
figure out a way ads are placed INSIDE messages
read by FREEs so that ad blockers don't work on them.
This way each message read by a FREE will have an ad
"hard coded in" at the start of the post read, and untouchable
by any ad blocker, plus those ego's signatures at the bottom
of each post, making a Premium membership desirable.
(BUT BUT BUT)
This approach is to me anti in that it will lessen the number
of unregisters going into a FREE if there is no reduction
in the ad and signature "noise."
To me going into a FREE from unregistered is to be able
to NOT see ads and signatures.
To go into Premium from FREE is to get folders and other
extra neat features like Advanced Search.
Turn off signatures should be a FREE feature, not Premium.
Let unregistered get a VERY BAD msg reading experience,
causing them to go FREE, and then using that Happy Hour
let them "want it all."
Bottom line in my approach, turn off ads for FREEs
and redesign the ad revenue model for quality over quanity
where both FREEs and Premium see it the same, and its
all up to the user to go into the ad pages because they want
to actually buy something and hope for a special iHub'n deal.
In reply to: Paulie Cashews
... thanks so much for all the artwork!
... a 4x8-foot area of the office wall covered with them.
Will take a picture of them one of these days and post it.
Bob do ya have a picture of Sheriff Matt face where under
his nose is a ribbon of white milky stuff, and under says:
"Sheriff Matt got Milked"
(Edit Window)
re: "... While this feature is still under development,
I'll keep it available to everyone [free] registered members
will be able to use it all they like. And if I later decide
to make it a Premium feature, I'll move filed freebie messages
back to their MailBoxes before zapping their folders.
Bob, If you allow FREEs to use it now and do indeed later
make it Premium, then do as you said above BUT also leave
the folders "as is" so that FREEs can access them in Happy Hour
and incase they pay up into Premium, they will not have lost what
they did during FREE times. Yes, it would be sloppy to get everything
back into their MailBox while retaining the folder use during HH.
D:oug
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