Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

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The reason there cant be public trials immediatly, so I am told is that this would make Al queda know who was caught, and cause evidentiary problems like in the Moussoui case.

There haven't been private trials either in some cases... just citizens held for indefinite periods.

I would prefer a spiritual awakening among the crazed Osamaphiles and call for peace among moslems, not continued war like Mathathir wants. The FBi monitors mosques: sound evil? how about the calendar used in many Moslem day schools which had planes flying into the WTC in SEpt 2001? Or the weapons stored at mosques or the recordings of Al Arian at mosques in which he asks for 500 dollars to kill a jew? If you use a religious edifice for terrorism you cross the line

none of that should have any bearing on a persons civil rights. What if you use religious edifice for an illegal war... is that crossing the line?

Similarly if a man has unprotected sex with a women or a women has unprotected sex with a man and either is hiding the fact that they have HIV, it is murder if the other party is infected. No constitutional rights.

Presumed guilty or not, everyone's constitutional rights should be protected.