Doghouse, what if i was turning in 50 mil shares at a time. For Certificates and the Brokers are holding long Certs of 400 mil. I turn in 400 mil shares . Brokers hold shares in Street Names , Not in your name but theirs. Now i got 400 million Certs. Thats more then 50 % of 700 million. I own contolling interest, But with 2 Billion in reserve i can't control CKYS.