Haven't heard that before. Always been Mark Bolster CEO https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/STHC/profile Tried today an invite with Bill on Linkedin Don't know if he will accept invite. I see Volt Carbon is still plugging away....minus the offtake agreement. Ya, Mark really had us buy into this...even the second time. I can see how we could have believed in the Phoenix flight. but now wtfk.