Monday, August 18, 2025 6:59:30 PM
Trump has been dragged reluctantly to this position. Let us never forget one absolutely key past comment by Trump (see below), solid evidence that any positives that come out of anything he ever is involved in regarding Ukraine is due to the good thoughts and good deeds and strong stances and actions by others involved. Most of all by the Ukrainians. See that Trump quote below:
This is over a year ago, May, 2023
As Putin Bides His Time, Ukraine Faces a Ticking Clock
[...]
If the Ukrainians fall short of expectations, they risk an erosion of Western support. It is a source of anxiety for top officials in Kyiv, who know that beyond battlefield muscle and ingenuity, victory may ultimately come down to a test of wills between the Kremlin and the West — and which side can muster more political, economic and industrial staying power, possibly for years.
As a result, there is a sense in Ukraine that its war effort faces a ticking clock.
“In countries that are our partners, our friends, the expectation of the counteroffensive is overestimated, overheated, I would say,” Ukraine’s defense minister, Oleksiy Reznikov, said in an interview this past week in Kyiv, the capital. “That is my main concern.”
[...]
In Russia, President Vladimir V. Putin faces his own challenges but is showing signs of operating on a much longer timeline, encumbered by economic and military limitations but free from the domestic political pressures that make continuing Western support for Ukraine so uncertain.
[...]
But Mr. Putin has defined the war effort as a top priority and vital national interest, telling Russians in a New Year’s address .. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/03/world/europe/putin-russia-ukraine-war.html .. that “we must only fight, only keep going” against Western democracies intent on Russia’s destruction.
“Certainly I think there is a calculation in the Kremlin that Russia is more resilient than the West,” said Thomas E. Graham, a distinguished fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, who served as senior director for Russia on the National Security Council from 2004 to 2007.
“They do think about these electoral cycles,” Mr. Graham said. “Who knows what is going to happen in 2024 in the United States? It’s not clear where the American people are on this over the long run. I think the Kremlin and Putin do believe that in that sense, time is on their side.”
[...]
But Mr. Putin has defined the war effort as a top priority and vital national interest, telling Russians in a New Year’s address .. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/03/world/europe/putin-russia-ukraine-war.html .. that “we must only fight, only keep going” against Western democracies intent on Russia’s destruction.
“Certainly I think there is a calculation in the Kremlin that Russia is more resilient than the West,” said Thomas E. Graham, a distinguished fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, who served as senior director for Russia on the National Security Council from 2004 to 2007.
“They do think about these electoral cycles,” Mr. Graham said. “Who knows what is going to happen in 2024 in the United States? It’s not clear where the American people are on this over the long run. I think the Kremlin and Putin do believe that in that sense, time is on their side.”
[Insert: HERE IT IS - NEVER FORGET]
"But Mr. Biden is heading into a presidential election cycle that could upend U.S. backing for Ukraine, particularly if Americans elect former President Donald J. Trump, the Republican front-runner. Mr. Trump has criticized Mr. Biden’s support for Ukrainian forces, saying in an interview this year with Fox News that “ultimately,” Mr. Putin “is going to take over all of Ukraine.”
[EVERY AMERICAN, everyone worldwide, should have that comment by Trump etched solidly in their minds,
in every conversation they ever hold about Ukkraine. Yes, i had forgotten it before seeing it again just now.]
[...]
Mr. Putin has little incentive to end the war now, unless his hand is forced, because its continuation helps him retain power, said Andrea Kendall-Taylor, a senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security and a former deputy national intelligence officer for Russia and Eurasia. Any negotiations after a military defeat would look like capitulation and make him more vulnerable at home, she said.
“Even if Ukraine is wildly successful in its upcoming counteroffensive, he is not going to be forced into some negotiated settlement,” Ms. Kendall-Taylor said. “Instead, he has every incentive to fight through the challenges.”
The only exception is if Mr. Putin can come away from negotiations with something he can sell back home as enough of a victory, she said.
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Yep, i had forgotten that Trump quote where he said to Putin, Ok Vlad me old pal, as far as i am concerned Ukraine is ALL yours.
Biden was always firm in support of Ukraine. Trump on the other hand:
Mr. Trump has criticized Mr. Biden’s support for Ukrainian forces, saying in an interview this year with Fox News that “ultimately,” Mr. Putin “is going to take over all of Ukraine.”
Trump has been dragged by others to this table. Make certain everyone understands that.
"He hasn't done a decent job with it at all, and his MAGA movement at home has
only been destructive. They haven't built anything worthwhile, as far as i know.
You are correct."
Thanks for confirmation.
This is over a year ago, May, 2023
As Putin Bides His Time, Ukraine Faces a Ticking Clock
[...]
If the Ukrainians fall short of expectations, they risk an erosion of Western support. It is a source of anxiety for top officials in Kyiv, who know that beyond battlefield muscle and ingenuity, victory may ultimately come down to a test of wills between the Kremlin and the West — and which side can muster more political, economic and industrial staying power, possibly for years.
As a result, there is a sense in Ukraine that its war effort faces a ticking clock.
“In countries that are our partners, our friends, the expectation of the counteroffensive is overestimated, overheated, I would say,” Ukraine’s defense minister, Oleksiy Reznikov, said in an interview this past week in Kyiv, the capital. “That is my main concern.”
[...]
In Russia, President Vladimir V. Putin faces his own challenges but is showing signs of operating on a much longer timeline, encumbered by economic and military limitations but free from the domestic political pressures that make continuing Western support for Ukraine so uncertain.
[...]
But Mr. Putin has defined the war effort as a top priority and vital national interest, telling Russians in a New Year’s address .. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/03/world/europe/putin-russia-ukraine-war.html .. that “we must only fight, only keep going” against Western democracies intent on Russia’s destruction.
“Certainly I think there is a calculation in the Kremlin that Russia is more resilient than the West,” said Thomas E. Graham, a distinguished fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, who served as senior director for Russia on the National Security Council from 2004 to 2007.
“They do think about these electoral cycles,” Mr. Graham said. “Who knows what is going to happen in 2024 in the United States? It’s not clear where the American people are on this over the long run. I think the Kremlin and Putin do believe that in that sense, time is on their side.”
[...]
But Mr. Putin has defined the war effort as a top priority and vital national interest, telling Russians in a New Year’s address .. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/03/world/europe/putin-russia-ukraine-war.html .. that “we must only fight, only keep going” against Western democracies intent on Russia’s destruction.
“Certainly I think there is a calculation in the Kremlin that Russia is more resilient than the West,” said Thomas E. Graham, a distinguished fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, who served as senior director for Russia on the National Security Council from 2004 to 2007.
“They do think about these electoral cycles,” Mr. Graham said. “Who knows what is going to happen in 2024 in the United States? It’s not clear where the American people are on this over the long run. I think the Kremlin and Putin do believe that in that sense, time is on their side.”
[Insert: HERE IT IS - NEVER FORGET]
"But Mr. Biden is heading into a presidential election cycle that could upend U.S. backing for Ukraine, particularly if Americans elect former President Donald J. Trump, the Republican front-runner. Mr. Trump has criticized Mr. Biden’s support for Ukrainian forces, saying in an interview this year with Fox News that “ultimately,” Mr. Putin “is going to take over all of Ukraine.”
[EVERY AMERICAN, everyone worldwide, should have that comment by Trump etched solidly in their minds,
in every conversation they ever hold about Ukkraine. Yes, i had forgotten it before seeing it again just now.]
[...]
Mr. Putin has little incentive to end the war now, unless his hand is forced, because its continuation helps him retain power, said Andrea Kendall-Taylor, a senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security and a former deputy national intelligence officer for Russia and Eurasia. Any negotiations after a military defeat would look like capitulation and make him more vulnerable at home, she said.
“Even if Ukraine is wildly successful in its upcoming counteroffensive, he is not going to be forced into some negotiated settlement,” Ms. Kendall-Taylor said. “Instead, he has every incentive to fight through the challenges.”
The only exception is if Mr. Putin can come away from negotiations with something he can sell back home as enough of a victory, she said.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=171856828
Yep, i had forgotten that Trump quote where he said to Putin, Ok Vlad me old pal, as far as i am concerned Ukraine is ALL yours.
Biden was always firm in support of Ukraine. Trump on the other hand:
Mr. Trump has criticized Mr. Biden’s support for Ukrainian forces, saying in an interview this year with Fox News that “ultimately,” Mr. Putin “is going to take over all of Ukraine.”
Trump has been dragged by others to this table. Make certain everyone understands that.
"He hasn't done a decent job with it at all, and his MAGA movement at home has
only been destructive. They haven't built anything worthwhile, as far as i know.
You are correct."
Thanks for confirmation.
It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”
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