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Saturday, 06/28/2025 6:52:06 PM

Saturday, June 28, 2025 6:52:06 PM

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Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2018/07/08/sorry-bernie-bros-but-nordic-countries-are-not-socialist/

1. First of all Denmark didn't devastate their workforce.....

Those productive economies, generating good incomes for their workers, allowed the governments to raise the tax revenue needed to pay for the social benefits. It was not the government benefits that created wealth, but wealth that allowed the luxury of such generous government programs.

2. No minimum wage laws.....

Second, as evidence of the lack of government interference in business affairs, there is the fact that none of these countries have minimum wage laws. Unions are reasonably powerful in many industries and negotiate contracts, but the government does nothing to ensure any particular outcome from those negotiations. Workers are paid what they are worth, not based on government’s perception of what is fair.

3. School vouchers.......

A third example of Nordic commitment to free markets can be found in Sweden which has complete school choice. The government provides families with vouchers for each child. These vouchers can be used to attend regular public schools, government-run charter schools, or private, for-profit schools. Clearly, the use of government funds to pay for private, for-profit schools is the opposite of socialism.

4. Yes they have free medical but not all college

Yes, they offer government-paid healthcare, in some cases tuition-free university educations,

5. They do what they do because they took care of their workers and that's where their tax base comes from,,,,,,

It is allowing businesses to be productive that produces the high corporate and personal incomes that support the tax collections making the government benefits feasible. The Nordic countries are smart enough not to kill the goose that lays the golden egg.

Lastly.......... their position on outsourcing,, They didn't destroy their workers and communities.....In short, they were smart, not greedy....AI question

https://copilot.microsoft.com/chats/jM2FZRbZKc2SDkGMGmzfK

Compare to the US

When it comes to outsourcing, Denmark and the U.S. take very different approaches, shaped by their economies, labor markets, and strategic priorities.

🇩🇰 Denmark: Selective & Nearshore-Focused
Scale: Denmark outsources modestly—about 5,960 jobs between 2021–2023.

Focus: Primarily IT services, finance, and manufacturing.

Strategy: Emphasizes nearshoring to Eastern Europe for cultural and regulatory alignment.

Labor Model: Denmark’s “Flexicurity” system supports workers through transitions, making outsourcing less disruptive.

🇺🇸 United States: Large-Scale & Global
Scale: Roughly 300,000 jobs are outsourced annually, with the U.S. generating $62 billion of the global outsourcing market.

Focus: IT, customer service, manufacturing, and back-office operations.

Destinations: India, China, Mexico, and the Philippines dominate as offshoring hubs.

Impact: Outsourcing has contributed to the loss of over 5 million manufacturing jobs since 2001, especially affecting lower-income and minority workers.

In short, Denmark outsources with surgical precision, while the U.S. does it at industrial scale. Want to explore how these strategies affect innovation or job quality in each country?

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Epilogue: Denmark etc Do what they do because they have a well paid workforce, low debt and have been very smart how they've handled the modern world of globalization..... They didn't let corps get greedy and kept a solid free market society.....

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