Monday, June 16, 2025 8:52:13 AM
I totally agree with F2. In fact, I think the reason this administration has NOT released the GSEs is precisely because of what is happening on this board.
Numerous shareholders have expressed the "all or nothing" approach. Either we get it all, and government gets nothing, or we sue. Extensively. And the threat of lawsuits is freezing the government, because lawsuits will drag out this situation for years to come, far beyond the length of Trump's term. And, in the meantime, will freeze the GSEs assets so that neither the government nor shareholders get anything until the lawsuits are resolved.
If I am Trump, and it's either collect a few tens of billions of dollars every year, or try to release the GSEs and collect nothing, that's a bad deal. And Trump doesn't do bad deals.
Yes, the GSEs shareholders got screwed. Yes, the Supreme Court agreed the government could take over the GSEs and give shareholders nothing. Yes, conservatorship is costing shareholders billions of dollars.
Get over it.
As we have learned over the last few decades, wars are easy to start, and incredibly difficult to end. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan drug on for decades. Ukraine and Russia's war will likely last as long. Ditto for Israel and Iran.
No one wants to admit anything other than total victory. Unconditional surrender of the enemy. But that is not how most wars end, and not how this one will end,
If we are not ready ... all of us, Brandon, Neo everyone ... to accept reasonable compromise that gives some benefit to all parties, we will be here in this stalemate for another 17 years. Government will collect billions and billions more, and we will get nothing,
Numerous shareholders have expressed the "all or nothing" approach. Either we get it all, and government gets nothing, or we sue. Extensively. And the threat of lawsuits is freezing the government, because lawsuits will drag out this situation for years to come, far beyond the length of Trump's term. And, in the meantime, will freeze the GSEs assets so that neither the government nor shareholders get anything until the lawsuits are resolved.
If I am Trump, and it's either collect a few tens of billions of dollars every year, or try to release the GSEs and collect nothing, that's a bad deal. And Trump doesn't do bad deals.
Yes, the GSEs shareholders got screwed. Yes, the Supreme Court agreed the government could take over the GSEs and give shareholders nothing. Yes, conservatorship is costing shareholders billions of dollars.
Get over it.
As we have learned over the last few decades, wars are easy to start, and incredibly difficult to end. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan drug on for decades. Ukraine and Russia's war will likely last as long. Ditto for Israel and Iran.
No one wants to admit anything other than total victory. Unconditional surrender of the enemy. But that is not how most wars end, and not how this one will end,
If we are not ready ... all of us, Brandon, Neo everyone ... to accept reasonable compromise that gives some benefit to all parties, we will be here in this stalemate for another 17 years. Government will collect billions and billions more, and we will get nothing,
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