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Re: B402 post# 517722

Friday, 03/14/2025 4:44:16 PM

Friday, March 14, 2025 4:44:16 PM

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B402, The UAW supported Biden and Harris against Trump so some might find it odd they now support
Trump tariffs, but i think the why is obvious, because Trump is president and they want to work with him.

I mean Trump hasn't exactly been good for them:

UAW files federal labor charges against Donald Trump and Elon Musk after threatening workers on X interview
By David Goldman, CNN Updated 10:17 PM EDT, Tue August 13, 2024
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/13/business/uaw-trump-musk-charges/index.html

Also -- In the 1990s, Republicans and some Democrats, including a Democratic president, passed the North American Free Trade Agreement, promising more manufacturing and higher wages. They lied. NAFTA gutted American industry, closing 90,000 factories and hollowing out communities.

Donald Trump took advantage of this bipartisan betrayal in 2016, speaking to workers’ anger and disillusionment. He promised to fix the system, but his renegotiated NAFTA, known as the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), didn’t solve the problem. Since it passed, the U.S. trade deficit with Mexico has only increased, and thousands of blue-collar jobs have continued to leave the country.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/01/19/shawn-fain-uaw-trump-trade/

Course there will always be the dispute as to NAFTA being the culprit for the loss of American manufacturing jobs. See again:

B402, Your stupid one-sided spiel is as tiresome as it is untrue. You talk about fact-based,

You wont engage in even one fact based conversation contrary to the
democratic party line.....You will dismiss it out right...........Then troll it.....
We've seen the direction and priorities of the dem party.....
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175782648

yet you say -- "Ah, the world you created and defend........" The world who created? See:

NAFTA, 20 Years Later: Do the Benefits Outweigh the Costs?
[the blinkered all bad, black/white, as our trolls tend to be, should read this]
[...]Insert: Though, yes, there are problems with trade agreements (they could be better for low income workers, for one), where would you be without them. Trump tariffs and protectionism - see: "what a pile of horse shit.[...] One example of your bullshit.... gee, let me think, what was the trade retaliation for? Farmers spent a generation finding markets for their products, and it got wiped off the map with his insane tariffs... which of course we, the taxpayers once again paid for his blunders. And you consider that a victory? Fuck over some ordinary americans, farmers, and make every one else pay to try to make it right? Do you think that driving up the cost of farm products had no end result in inflation that you love to blame on biden? Splatting your spittle of pages of crap, none of it attributed, is just blowing smoke up your own ass. No one else is that gullible here." [DesertDrifter, beautifully said -] https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=169667686]
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=170952283 [.. my emphasis ..]

What’s really behind Republican obstructionism?
"From Gingrich to McCarthy, the Roots of Governance by Chaos


https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175783693

All that said i do agree that fair trade agreements ..
https://fairtradecampaigns.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/CAM_FreevsFairTrade101_190418.pdf ..
would be wildly preferable to free trade agreements:

It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”

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