Wednesday, March 12, 2025 12:28:41 AM
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"The 2025 nazi's have dumbed down half the country and have hit a wall. So they have to start very young to peddle their bullshit. This in itself isn't a new technique, it's just a long ways to go. They're planning for a long haul. Which makes it even more imperative that we stop them now.
Our side needs to start peppering all the courts with treason charges against muskrat and cheeto mussolini. Anything less is just delay tactics.
I truly don't think we can afford delays."
Couldn't add any more, except to say, yes pepper. With the best pepper about. Illegal acts galore. There was Jan. 6 .
Why aren't we calling the Capitol attack an act of treason?
This article is more than 3 years old
There has been little public discussion of the term as the framework for understanding what happened on 6 January, experts say
Lois Beckett Mon 5 Apr 2021 20.00 AEST
[...]
“If you asked a lawyer in 1790 if [6 January] was an act of treason or levying war against the United States, they would have almost certainly said yes,” Larson said.
Yet Larson said he did not expect prosecutors would file treason charges in the 6 January cases, because the charge would probably add too many legal complications. A legal precedent from 1851 set a higher bar for the definition of treason, he wrote, defining it only as an attempt to overthrow the government itself, not simply the obstruction of one particular law.
The definition of “seditious conspiracy”, in contrast, seems like a much easier match, Larson and Carroll agreed, particularly because it includes conspiracies “to prevent, hinder or delay the execution of any law”, which the Capitol invaders appear to have accomplished by forcing lawmakers to hide and delaying the certification of the 2020 election results.
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[Insert: Feels like impoundment goes close to that. See
B402, Democrats, don’t save Trump from himself
[...]Ultimately, it will be up to the courts to determine which of President Donald Trump’s actions are illegal. But a case can be made — indeed, many cases already have been made in federal courts — that the new administration over the course of the last fortnight has violated each of the following laws. See if you can say them in one breath. In reverse chronological order of first enactment:
P - The Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act of 2024. The Administrative Leave Act of 2016. The Federal Information Security Modernization Act of 2014. The Affordable Care Act of 2010. The Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act of 1998. The Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993. The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986. The Inspector General Act of 1978. The Privacy Act of 1974. The Impoundment Control Act of 1974. The Rehabilitation Act of 1973. The Federal Advisory Committee Act of 1972. The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. The Administrative Procedure Act of 1946. The Public Health Service Act 1944. The Antideficiency Act of 1870.
P - That’s a century and a half of statutes shredded in just over two weeks.]
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175902539
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“Seditious conspiracy captures the flavor of January 6,” said Steve Vladeck, a federal courts expert at the University of Texas school of law. “You had a whole lot of people – who may not have had exactly the same motive, or may not have committed the exact same acts – who were in a very large degree involved in a common plan, the goal of which was to somehow, in some way, keep President Trump in office.”
“If that’s not seditious conspiracy, I don’t know what is.”
[... to end ...]
Sedition laws in the early 20th century, including the Sedition Act of 1918, was “not only focused on World War I”, but “really focused on shutting down socialists and communists, who the government thought were going to be a threat to democracy”, said Roy Gutterman, the director of the Tully Center for Free Speech at Syracuse University.
The supreme court at the time upheld convictions of “small groups of dissidents” who were “distributing fliers speaking out against the US government”, Gutterman said. That included socialists passing out flyers advocating that Americans peacefully resist the draft, which the supreme court at the time ruled was not protected as free speech.
When a law originally designed to crack down on leftist and labor organizers were used to prosecute a Ku Klux Klan leader after a cross burning in the 1960s, the supreme court set a new standard, concluding that the law violated the Klan leader’s free speech rights.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/05/the-capitol-attack-treason .
It's not easy. Surely with just Jan. 6 and the pardons there, plus all the illegalities of DOGE that's at least clearly
"...“seditious conspiracy” ...particularly because it includes conspiracies “to prevent, hinder or delay the execution of any law”.
You'd think.
I agree - pepper - when, and if, they have virtually unquestionable grounds. With these assholes it's gotta be virtually.
As for treason, "...an attempt to overthrow the government itself, not simply the obstruction of one particular law."
Their aim is too eliminate government as it is known. To insert a King, with the courts and Congress
serving at the will of the King. If that isn't "an attempt to overthrow the government itself" ... what is?
It's treason.
"The 2025 nazi's have dumbed down half the country and have hit a wall. So they have to start very young to peddle their bullshit. This in itself isn't a new technique, it's just a long ways to go. They're planning for a long haul. Which makes it even more imperative that we stop them now.
Our side needs to start peppering all the courts with treason charges against muskrat and cheeto mussolini. Anything less is just delay tactics.
I truly don't think we can afford delays."
Couldn't add any more, except to say, yes pepper. With the best pepper about. Illegal acts galore. There was Jan. 6 .
Why aren't we calling the Capitol attack an act of treason?
This article is more than 3 years old
There has been little public discussion of the term as the framework for understanding what happened on 6 January, experts say
Lois Beckett Mon 5 Apr 2021 20.00 AEST
[...]
“If you asked a lawyer in 1790 if [6 January] was an act of treason or levying war against the United States, they would have almost certainly said yes,” Larson said.
Yet Larson said he did not expect prosecutors would file treason charges in the 6 January cases, because the charge would probably add too many legal complications. A legal precedent from 1851 set a higher bar for the definition of treason, he wrote, defining it only as an attempt to overthrow the government itself, not simply the obstruction of one particular law.
The definition of “seditious conspiracy”, in contrast, seems like a much easier match, Larson and Carroll agreed, particularly because it includes conspiracies “to prevent, hinder or delay the execution of any law”, which the Capitol invaders appear to have accomplished by forcing lawmakers to hide and delaying the certification of the 2020 election results.
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[Insert: Feels like impoundment goes close to that. See
B402, Democrats, don’t save Trump from himself
[...]Ultimately, it will be up to the courts to determine which of President Donald Trump’s actions are illegal. But a case can be made — indeed, many cases already have been made in federal courts — that the new administration over the course of the last fortnight has violated each of the following laws. See if you can say them in one breath. In reverse chronological order of first enactment:
P - The Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act of 2024. The Administrative Leave Act of 2016. The Federal Information Security Modernization Act of 2014. The Affordable Care Act of 2010. The Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act of 1998. The Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993. The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986. The Inspector General Act of 1978. The Privacy Act of 1974. The Impoundment Control Act of 1974. The Rehabilitation Act of 1973. The Federal Advisory Committee Act of 1972. The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. The Administrative Procedure Act of 1946. The Public Health Service Act 1944. The Antideficiency Act of 1870.
P - That’s a century and a half of statutes shredded in just over two weeks.]
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175902539
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“Seditious conspiracy captures the flavor of January 6,” said Steve Vladeck, a federal courts expert at the University of Texas school of law. “You had a whole lot of people – who may not have had exactly the same motive, or may not have committed the exact same acts – who were in a very large degree involved in a common plan, the goal of which was to somehow, in some way, keep President Trump in office.”
“If that’s not seditious conspiracy, I don’t know what is.”
[... to end ...]
Sedition laws in the early 20th century, including the Sedition Act of 1918, was “not only focused on World War I”, but “really focused on shutting down socialists and communists, who the government thought were going to be a threat to democracy”, said Roy Gutterman, the director of the Tully Center for Free Speech at Syracuse University.
The supreme court at the time upheld convictions of “small groups of dissidents” who were “distributing fliers speaking out against the US government”, Gutterman said. That included socialists passing out flyers advocating that Americans peacefully resist the draft, which the supreme court at the time ruled was not protected as free speech.
When a law originally designed to crack down on leftist and labor organizers were used to prosecute a Ku Klux Klan leader after a cross burning in the 1960s, the supreme court set a new standard, concluding that the law violated the Klan leader’s free speech rights.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/05/the-capitol-attack-treason .
It's not easy. Surely with just Jan. 6 and the pardons there, plus all the illegalities of DOGE that's at least clearly
"...“seditious conspiracy” ...particularly because it includes conspiracies “to prevent, hinder or delay the execution of any law”.
You'd think.
I agree - pepper - when, and if, they have virtually unquestionable grounds. With these assholes it's gotta be virtually.
As for treason, "...an attempt to overthrow the government itself, not simply the obstruction of one particular law."
Their aim is too eliminate government as it is known. To insert a King, with the courts and Congress
serving at the will of the King. If that isn't "an attempt to overthrow the government itself" ... what is?
It's treason.
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