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Re: sortagreen post# 507611

Tuesday, 01/14/2025 3:25:52 PM

Tuesday, January 14, 2025 3:25:52 PM

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AI Perplexity response to.....an effort to get these fire suppression systems on the fires when they are just beginning and small -- in the LA fires they apparently were not fully employed until after several days. Is that accurate?

Key words: extreme weather conditions and, especially, unprecedented. My conclusion? The politicization, and climate change denials, used by Trump and by Republicans suggests that their own responses to the fire would have been no better and probably worse.

Conclusion

While efforts were made to respond quickly, the full deployment of fire suppression systems appears to have been hampered by extreme weather conditions, safety concerns, and logistical challenges. It took several days to fully mobilize and deploy the extensive resources needed to combat these unprecedented fires effectively


Based on the available information, it appears that there were indeed challenges in fully deploying fire suppression systems during the early stages of the Los Angeles fires in January 2025. Several factors contributed to this situation:

Initial Firefighting Challenges

Extreme Weather Conditions: The fires were exacerbated by very low humidity, dry conditions, and hurricane-force Santa Ana winds that in some places reached 100 miles per hour1. These extreme conditions made it unsafe for aerial firefighting efforts, particularly in the early stages of the fires19.

Grounded Aircraft: Due to the high winds, firefighting helicopters were grounded last Tuesday (January 7, 2025) when the fires first broke out5. This significantly hampered the ability to deploy aerial fire suppression systems quickly.

Water Pressure Issues: In Pacific Palisades, one of the most affected areas, there were problems with water pressure in elevated regions. By late Tuesday evening, two of the one million-gallon water tanks in the elevated area had run dry, and by 3 AM Wednesday, the third tank was also empty5. This lack of water pressure likely impacted the ability to use ground-based fire suppression systems effectively.

Delayed Full Deployment

The information suggests that full deployment of fire suppression systems was indeed delayed for several days:

Federal Assistance: President Biden approved Governor Newsom's request for a Presidential Major Disaster Declaration to support ongoing response efforts, but this came after the fires had already been burning for some time14.

Mobilization of Resources: By January 8 (the day after the fires started), more than 7,500 firefighting and emergency personnel had been deployed14. This indicates that it took some time to fully mobilize and deploy resources.

Air Support: The lack of air support in the early days after the fires started on January 7 was noted as a major hindrance to firefighting efforts16.

Conclusion

While efforts were made to respond quickly, the full deployment of fire suppression systems appears to have been hampered by extreme weather conditions, safety concerns, and logistical challenges. It took several days to fully mobilize and deploy the extensive resources needed to combat these unprecedented fires effectively

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