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brooklyn13, Yes i can, and, yes, i have done for years. Actually mostly i ignore snark and deal with other content. Seems to me you must be projecting some when you put that onto me. And guess what, we seemed to agree on most everything before you started getting snarky about my position on Israel and Netanyahu's war. Based on a quick look we even seemed to mostly agree on the positions of other posters. The snark i think started about here .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172998161 .. here and my reply i thought was measured and fair. Back then you may have seen it like that too as you didn't reply to it back then.
"You just can't disagree with someone without calling them names, can you?
I actually feel sorry for you, your insecurities are distorting your reality, it's a you problem. But I'm guessing you've heard this before"
I haven't actually. On Al Jazeera (English) i told you why i saw it as credible. How do rating sites see it?
https://adfontesmedia.com/al-jazeera-bias-and-reliability/ .. it passes there.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/al-jazeera/ .. mixed reliability there.
Lemme see, lol, you may appreciate:
Bahrain Information Minister Nabeel bin Yaqub Al-Hamar banned Al Jazeera correspondents from reporting from inside the country on 10 May 2002, saying that the station was biased towards Israel and against Bahrain.[18] After improvements in relations between Bahrain and Qatar in 2004, Al Jazeera correspondents returned to Bahrain. In 2010, however, the Information Ministry again banned Al Jazeera correspondents from reporting inside the country. The ministry accused the network of "flouting [Bahrain's] laws regulating the press and publishing" after Al Jazeera aired a report on poverty in Bahrain.[19]
During his visit to Egypt in November 2011, Bahrain Centre for Human Rights president Nabeel Rajab criticized Al Jazeera's coverage of the 2011 protests and said that it represents an Arabic double standard. Rajab said, "Al Jazeera's intentional ignoring ... coverage of Bahrain protests makes me strongly believe that we need channels that are sponsored by people rather than by regimes."[20] In the run-up to the Qatar diplomatic crisis, Bahrain blocked Al Jazeera within its borders.[21]
and
Al Jazeera TV covered welcome-home festivities for Samir Kuntar, a Lebanese terrorist imprisoned in Israel for killing several people in a Palestine Liberation Front raid from Lebanon into that country, when Kuntar was released from prison on 19 July 2008. On the program, Al Jazeera Beirut office head Ghassan bin Jiddo called Kuntar a "pan-Arab hero" and organized a birthday party for him.[56][57][58] Israel's Government Press Office (GPO) announced a boycott of the channel, including a refusal by Israeli officials to be interviewed and a ban of its correspondents entering government offices in Jerusalem.[59][60] Several days later, Al Jazeera director-general Wadah Khanfar issued a letter admitting that the program violated the channel's code of ethics and saying that he ordered its programming director to take steps to ensure that such an incident would not recur.[61][62]
and
The Al Jazeera office in Kuwait City was closed by government officials after the organization aired a story on police crackdowns. The story included interviews with members of the Kuwaiti opposition and a video of police beating activists. Four National Assembly members were injured in the crackdown. Kuwait's Minister of Information described Al Jazeera's coverage as "interference in Kuwait's internal affairs."[75]
Libya
According to Libyan media, Al Jazeera worked on behalf of the Western world and the Gulf Cooperation Council to promote anti-Libyan policies and "disseminate falsehoods and lies to incite international public opinion".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_controversies_and_criticism
You can see generally Al Jazeera has been banned in countries because they have
taken positions the authoritarian leaders of those countries didn't appreciate.
One more
The dilemma of al-Jazeera English for American journalists
This article is more than 11 years old
Bob Garfield
The Qatari-owned cable news operator is almost the only US media outlet hiring. But should reporters take the emir's riyal?
Mon 11 Feb 2013 01.00 AEDT
Pan-Arab news channel al-Jazeera has acquired Current TV
to gain access to the US cable TV market.
Photograph: Franck Fife/AFP/Getty Images
How the hell did this happen?
You grew up in the Watergate era. Or at least, you saw All the President's Men. Or anyway, Lou Grant. You knew in your bones what you wanted: you wanted to shine light into the dark corners of government and society. You wanted to turn impunity into accountability. You wanted to speak truth to power.
So you went to journalism school, and it was good. You got to use those skinny reporter's notebooks, which you used to cover the de-chartering of Kappa Sigma for its "statutory rape social" and the lawsuit by the Hmong Students Association to have a Hmong studies department set up.
Also, you pulled out your pad in bars to interview hot women.
"J school" prepared you well. After four short years, you were ready to leave the womb of undergraduate studies to take on the rough-and-tumble world of graduate studies. At the age of 24, you were released into general society as professional reporter, in central Pennsylvania, covering the solid waste authority, the county fair and live births at Community Hospital. There, you broke the first-baby-of-1982 story.
Your career progressed, from a 20,000-circulation suburban weekly to a 45,000 small-city daily, where you won a reporting prize after recognizing the state insurance commissioner in a strip bar. This was big news because she was dancing there.
You parleyed that into a job at a major metropolitan daily, where you were part of a Pulitzer Prize-winning team that uncovered widespread bribery and corruption in the city licensing bureau. This was in 1995. In 1996, you were hired on the metropolitan desk of the New York Times. This job mainly involved going to murder scenes and fires in the outer boroughs.
But you noticed a pattern of arrests – or, actually, non-arrests – in homicide cases involving minority victims, particularly immigrants. For this, in the year 2000, you received your second Pulitzer Prize. You were immediately promoted to the national desk, where you covered civil rights for five years. This got you a foreign desk posting. London! Mumbai! Seoul!
Then, last week, they laid off your sorry ass. You are fictional, of course, but not by much.
No problem, you are an A-list journalist with two Pulitzers. All you have to do is sit by the phone until Time Magazine and the Washington Post and Newsweek and Newsday, or at least the Kansas City Star, give you a call. And perhaps they will – as soon as they get finished laying off their own staff. Which will not happen until the last editorial employee turns off the lights for good.
Trrrrrrrinnnng. Al-Jazeera calls.
Yes, calling you. You are being offered a job funded by the Emir of Qatar, a petro-rich sheik.
Al-Jazeera is one of the most significant news organizations of the past 20 years, covering the Arab world with a degree of depth and scope unprecedented in the region, where otherwise redlines abound for national media in every country. It does a pretty good job covering the rest of the world, too. But to repeat, it is bankrolled by petro-royalty in a country that is nobody's idea of a liberal democracy.
Vigorous reporting on revolutions in Egypt, Syria and Tunisia somehow has not been matched when the dissidence occurs in Gulf neighbors Saudi Arabia and Bahrain. And then, there is the inflammatory anti-western and anti-Israeli rhetoric give so much oxygen on its broadcasts. Perhaps not on al-Jazeera English, which is recruiting you, but didn't Dave Marash quit that channel .. https://www.cjr.org/the_water_cooler/dave_marash_why_i_quit.php .. because the editorial agenda kept poking him in the ribs? And didn't you once turn down a job at the Christian Science Monitor because you didn't want to explain Mary Baker Eddy .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Baker_Eddy ?
Will it be easier to take your paycheck from an emirate whose economy functions based on indentured servitude?
But will CBS call? Will NBC call? Will ABC call? Will CNN call? Nah, they're all trimming staff, too. The only other news organization on the grow is Bloomberg. Has Bloomberg called?
No, Bloomberg has not called. Poet Mohammed al-Ajami is rotting in prison for life .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/29/qatari-poet-jailed-arab-spring .. on the charge of insulting the emir, but, once again, Bloomberg has not called. This is a conundrum, is it not?
But wait. There's this: al-Jazeera English has never had much distribution in the US because cable operators wouldn't pick up the channel. The market penetration was so bad that the emir just shelled out $1bn to Al Gore and friends to buy their Current channel, which was available in 40 million homes.
The thing is, nobody, but nobody, watched that channel .. http://www.newser.com/story/160337/boring-current-tv-wont-help-boring-al-jazeera.html . That's the beauty part. You don't have to explain away your employer, if nobody ever sees your reporting.
So it's settled. You tell friends that this is the channel that brought down tyrants. You tell your family that the health insurance is fantastic.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/feb/10/dilemma-aljazeera-english-american-journalists
Bottom line is that Al Jazeera (English) is not perfect, but neither are the NYT or Wapo or any other news outlet.
And Al Jazeera reporting does not indicate they are an extremist Islamic tool as you seem to be suggesting they are.
Which bring us full circle again back to Haaretz, which you continue to leave alone despite the fact they have been as critical of Netanyahu's efforts in Gaza and Lebanon as Al Jazeera has been.
Ok, one more
Israel: Al Jazeera shutdown is dangerous and wrong
The International Federation of Journalists (IFJ) has joined its affiliate the Palestinian Journalists’ Syndicate (PJS) in condemning the Israeli government’s shutdown of Al Jazeera, and called for the broadcaster to be allowed to resume operations. The Federation also raised concerns about the confiscation of journalists’ personal work equipment and phones.
https://www.ifj.org/media-centre/news/detail/article/israel-al-jazeera-shutdown-is-dangerous-and-wrong
"You just can't disagree with someone without calling them names, can you?
I actually feel sorry for you, your insecurities are distorting your reality, it's a you problem. But I'm guessing you've heard this before"
I haven't actually. On Al Jazeera (English) i told you why i saw it as credible. How do rating sites see it?
https://adfontesmedia.com/al-jazeera-bias-and-reliability/ .. it passes there.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/al-jazeera/ .. mixed reliability there.
Lemme see, lol, you may appreciate:
Bahrain Information Minister Nabeel bin Yaqub Al-Hamar banned Al Jazeera correspondents from reporting from inside the country on 10 May 2002, saying that the station was biased towards Israel and against Bahrain.[18] After improvements in relations between Bahrain and Qatar in 2004, Al Jazeera correspondents returned to Bahrain. In 2010, however, the Information Ministry again banned Al Jazeera correspondents from reporting inside the country. The ministry accused the network of "flouting [Bahrain's] laws regulating the press and publishing" after Al Jazeera aired a report on poverty in Bahrain.[19]
During his visit to Egypt in November 2011, Bahrain Centre for Human Rights president Nabeel Rajab criticized Al Jazeera's coverage of the 2011 protests and said that it represents an Arabic double standard. Rajab said, "Al Jazeera's intentional ignoring ... coverage of Bahrain protests makes me strongly believe that we need channels that are sponsored by people rather than by regimes."[20] In the run-up to the Qatar diplomatic crisis, Bahrain blocked Al Jazeera within its borders.[21]
and
Al Jazeera TV covered welcome-home festivities for Samir Kuntar, a Lebanese terrorist imprisoned in Israel for killing several people in a Palestine Liberation Front raid from Lebanon into that country, when Kuntar was released from prison on 19 July 2008. On the program, Al Jazeera Beirut office head Ghassan bin Jiddo called Kuntar a "pan-Arab hero" and organized a birthday party for him.[56][57][58] Israel's Government Press Office (GPO) announced a boycott of the channel, including a refusal by Israeli officials to be interviewed and a ban of its correspondents entering government offices in Jerusalem.[59][60] Several days later, Al Jazeera director-general Wadah Khanfar issued a letter admitting that the program violated the channel's code of ethics and saying that he ordered its programming director to take steps to ensure that such an incident would not recur.[61][62]
and
The Al Jazeera office in Kuwait City was closed by government officials after the organization aired a story on police crackdowns. The story included interviews with members of the Kuwaiti opposition and a video of police beating activists. Four National Assembly members were injured in the crackdown. Kuwait's Minister of Information described Al Jazeera's coverage as "interference in Kuwait's internal affairs."[75]
Libya
According to Libyan media, Al Jazeera worked on behalf of the Western world and the Gulf Cooperation Council to promote anti-Libyan policies and "disseminate falsehoods and lies to incite international public opinion".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_controversies_and_criticism
You can see generally Al Jazeera has been banned in countries because they have
taken positions the authoritarian leaders of those countries didn't appreciate.
One more
The dilemma of al-Jazeera English for American journalists
This article is more than 11 years old
Bob Garfield
The Qatari-owned cable news operator is almost the only US media outlet hiring. But should reporters take the emir's riyal?
Mon 11 Feb 2013 01.00 AEDT
Pan-Arab news channel al-Jazeera has acquired Current TV
to gain access to the US cable TV market.
Photograph: Franck Fife/AFP/Getty Images
How the hell did this happen?
You grew up in the Watergate era. Or at least, you saw All the President's Men. Or anyway, Lou Grant. You knew in your bones what you wanted: you wanted to shine light into the dark corners of government and society. You wanted to turn impunity into accountability. You wanted to speak truth to power.
So you went to journalism school, and it was good. You got to use those skinny reporter's notebooks, which you used to cover the de-chartering of Kappa Sigma for its "statutory rape social" and the lawsuit by the Hmong Students Association to have a Hmong studies department set up.
Also, you pulled out your pad in bars to interview hot women.
"J school" prepared you well. After four short years, you were ready to leave the womb of undergraduate studies to take on the rough-and-tumble world of graduate studies. At the age of 24, you were released into general society as professional reporter, in central Pennsylvania, covering the solid waste authority, the county fair and live births at Community Hospital. There, you broke the first-baby-of-1982 story.
Your career progressed, from a 20,000-circulation suburban weekly to a 45,000 small-city daily, where you won a reporting prize after recognizing the state insurance commissioner in a strip bar. This was big news because she was dancing there.
You parleyed that into a job at a major metropolitan daily, where you were part of a Pulitzer Prize-winning team that uncovered widespread bribery and corruption in the city licensing bureau. This was in 1995. In 1996, you were hired on the metropolitan desk of the New York Times. This job mainly involved going to murder scenes and fires in the outer boroughs.
But you noticed a pattern of arrests – or, actually, non-arrests – in homicide cases involving minority victims, particularly immigrants. For this, in the year 2000, you received your second Pulitzer Prize. You were immediately promoted to the national desk, where you covered civil rights for five years. This got you a foreign desk posting. London! Mumbai! Seoul!
Then, last week, they laid off your sorry ass. You are fictional, of course, but not by much.
No problem, you are an A-list journalist with two Pulitzers. All you have to do is sit by the phone until Time Magazine and the Washington Post and Newsweek and Newsday, or at least the Kansas City Star, give you a call. And perhaps they will – as soon as they get finished laying off their own staff. Which will not happen until the last editorial employee turns off the lights for good.
Trrrrrrrinnnng. Al-Jazeera calls.
Yes, calling you. You are being offered a job funded by the Emir of Qatar, a petro-rich sheik.
Al-Jazeera is one of the most significant news organizations of the past 20 years, covering the Arab world with a degree of depth and scope unprecedented in the region, where otherwise redlines abound for national media in every country. It does a pretty good job covering the rest of the world, too. But to repeat, it is bankrolled by petro-royalty in a country that is nobody's idea of a liberal democracy.
Vigorous reporting on revolutions in Egypt, Syria and Tunisia somehow has not been matched when the dissidence occurs in Gulf neighbors Saudi Arabia and Bahrain. And then, there is the inflammatory anti-western and anti-Israeli rhetoric give so much oxygen on its broadcasts. Perhaps not on al-Jazeera English, which is recruiting you, but didn't Dave Marash quit that channel .. https://www.cjr.org/the_water_cooler/dave_marash_why_i_quit.php .. because the editorial agenda kept poking him in the ribs? And didn't you once turn down a job at the Christian Science Monitor because you didn't want to explain Mary Baker Eddy .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Baker_Eddy ?
Will it be easier to take your paycheck from an emirate whose economy functions based on indentured servitude?
But will CBS call? Will NBC call? Will ABC call? Will CNN call? Nah, they're all trimming staff, too. The only other news organization on the grow is Bloomberg. Has Bloomberg called?
No, Bloomberg has not called. Poet Mohammed al-Ajami is rotting in prison for life .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/nov/29/qatari-poet-jailed-arab-spring .. on the charge of insulting the emir, but, once again, Bloomberg has not called. This is a conundrum, is it not?
But wait. There's this: al-Jazeera English has never had much distribution in the US because cable operators wouldn't pick up the channel. The market penetration was so bad that the emir just shelled out $1bn to Al Gore and friends to buy their Current channel, which was available in 40 million homes.
The thing is, nobody, but nobody, watched that channel .. http://www.newser.com/story/160337/boring-current-tv-wont-help-boring-al-jazeera.html . That's the beauty part. You don't have to explain away your employer, if nobody ever sees your reporting.
So it's settled. You tell friends that this is the channel that brought down tyrants. You tell your family that the health insurance is fantastic.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/feb/10/dilemma-aljazeera-english-american-journalists
Bottom line is that Al Jazeera (English) is not perfect, but neither are the NYT or Wapo or any other news outlet.
And Al Jazeera reporting does not indicate they are an extremist Islamic tool as you seem to be suggesting they are.
Which bring us full circle again back to Haaretz, which you continue to leave alone despite the fact they have been as critical of Netanyahu's efforts in Gaza and Lebanon as Al Jazeera has been.
Ok, one more
Israel: Al Jazeera shutdown is dangerous and wrong
The International Federation of Journalists (IFJ) has joined its affiliate the Palestinian Journalists’ Syndicate (PJS) in condemning the Israeli government’s shutdown of Al Jazeera, and called for the broadcaster to be allowed to resume operations. The Federation also raised concerns about the confiscation of journalists’ personal work equipment and phones.
https://www.ifj.org/media-centre/news/detail/article/israel-al-jazeera-shutdown-is-dangerous-and-wrong
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