Tornado Alley (PROG)

[12yearplan]

Excellent mr fuagf, you are consistently reliable to actually address a question without fear of getting ur hands dirty
 
some do it, but i think it is hard for the average joe to live free of geopolitical machinations let alone restrictive societies like under the taliban or WV (lol, just kiddin B4 ;)
I think the proof is in the incredible response of the Ukrainian people. the fighting spirit, the sacrifice. that ain't no prop.
 
notwithstanding and yes, great masses of people can be fooled.. ahem..
 
in this world and life of competing interests, including ideals and ideology
let's go back to the polls to see what the people are saying but lets keep it clean as we can from bias or agenda
 
good summary of reporting with accurate polling numbers in this first link
https://theconversation.com/ukraine-war-polls-show-most-ukrainians-now-support-a-negotiated-peace-as-russian-advances-continue-244419
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=what+is+the+most+current+poll+for+how+ukrainians+feel+about+surrender
https://treasury.gov.au/sites/default/files/2023-02/c2022-264356-the-conversation.pdf
.. briefly scanning other news sites this one is fairly representative of the issues.. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conversation_(website)