They never ever needed to be in conserve, cat man only needed to get them out, nada. Cat man actually made it worse with his bank like equity changes, and never getting back what was stolen so the tards like KT could say they were illiquid on paper. Take all your profits then give me minimum higher caps, start at zero. GD freaks like Parot started it all, and wanted them in receivership. They survived and thrived on their own. Catman did nothing to help. Courts forced hands to allow build of capital, we all know that.