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brooklyn13, Has it ever occurred to you that many, if not virtually all, of the younger protesters you so arrogantly condemn are protesting against the war just because they see - and feel - the injustice of it all. Whatever happened to the two-state commitment of the West. The promise.
Fuck, even Vietnam war protests were claimed for a long time to never have any chance of changing policy. I doubt if any of the young protesting today believe they are trying to change policy. That's nonsense of yours.
And this:
"As far as I know, none of the protestors has been revealed to have given substantial sums of money to Gazans, none are going there to volunteer on medical teams or to deliver food or to, even, fight for their cause. Or very few. And while we've seen many ex-pat Ukrainians and Americans going to fight against Russia and we've seen many Israeli Americans and Americans going to fight against Hamas, the Hamas fan club is content to remain a theater piece.
P - So, what's the point, who benefits from these media oriented proceedings? I would venture a guess that it's part of a larger plan to create dissension among democrats to enable a Trump victory. By no impartial standards is this a genocide or is there apartheid in Israel (any worse than in America). These are ideas that attempt to be dog whistles on social media but are discounted by anyone with half a brain. (I mean, Genocide Joe? Who thinks that's clever?)"
again more rationalization nonsense from you. The protestors are uni kids and others who have a life and goddamn jobs, i guess. and you are saying they are not legit because they don't donate a lot of money, or don't go to Gaza. That's ridiculous. Sure there could be some, probably are who in their own minds are using the protests as an anti-Democrat effort, there are always agent provocateurs in every large protest. But shit, in saying what you said there you are demeaning and deriding all of the protestors. Your stance sounds more like an arrogant adult attitude than anything else.
The imbalance between numbers of fatalities and injuries and suffering of the two sides of Netanyahu's war against all Palestinians puts a nonsense, just more rationalization tag, to your
"The genocide I see is by the Hamas leaders who have become billionaires by stealing aid money from their people, starving them and depriving them of medical supplies, and are using those same people as shields in a war while their brave fighters hide underground in tunnels. "
That's ridiculous. And not that it is much relevant at all but you really have to provide a link to support your billionaires claims. I can't find one.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67103298 .
This Israeli has a much more insightful, caring and responsible approach to Israel than you have:
Is it true or not? Israeli group FakeReporter fact checks while seeking shelter
October 26, 2023 9:00 AM ET
Bobby Allyn
Achiya Schatz runs an organization in Israel called FakeReporter that authenticates images and videos that appear online in order to combat fake news. The group was founded three years ago. Before the war, it was focused on trying to help people who were targeted with online harassment for speaking out against corruption. Claire Harbage/NPR
Achiya Schatz walked into the kitchen and saw his mother-in-law standing there in tears.
Schatz, his pregnant partner, their toddler daughter, and two other Israeli families had fled the violence of the war, putting eleven under one roof at the home of his in-laws outside of Tel Aviv.
The house became a cacophony of screaming children, frantic phone calls and emergency Zoom meetings. Sometimes all three families are forced to seek shelter together from rocket attacks.
Yet what most rattled his mother-in-law were the unsettling images of children in cages.
"I asked her, 'what happened?' And she said I just saw a horrible video of babies in cages," Schatz said.
Sponsor Message
Not only did he immediately know that she was referring to deceptive footage, but the organization he runs, FakeReporter, was the first to show that the video portrayed something else entirely. The clip had been posted online months before Hamas attacked Israel, though the footage's exact origins remain the subject of online debate.
"This is a video that we refuted, " he told his mother-in-law. "It's a lie. It's fake."
Those words — "It's a lie. It's a fake"— are uttered quite a bit these days by Schatz and his associates ever since the Hamas-Israel war broke out, unleashing an informational war online.
From West Bank combat soldier to war fact-checker
More - https://www.npr.org/2023/10/26/1208179128/is-it-true-or-not-israeli-group-fakereporter-fact-checks-while-seeking-shelter
Fuck, even Vietnam war protests were claimed for a long time to never have any chance of changing policy. I doubt if any of the young protesting today believe they are trying to change policy. That's nonsense of yours.
And this:
"As far as I know, none of the protestors has been revealed to have given substantial sums of money to Gazans, none are going there to volunteer on medical teams or to deliver food or to, even, fight for their cause. Or very few. And while we've seen many ex-pat Ukrainians and Americans going to fight against Russia and we've seen many Israeli Americans and Americans going to fight against Hamas, the Hamas fan club is content to remain a theater piece.
P - So, what's the point, who benefits from these media oriented proceedings? I would venture a guess that it's part of a larger plan to create dissension among democrats to enable a Trump victory. By no impartial standards is this a genocide or is there apartheid in Israel (any worse than in America). These are ideas that attempt to be dog whistles on social media but are discounted by anyone with half a brain. (I mean, Genocide Joe? Who thinks that's clever?)"
again more rationalization nonsense from you. The protestors are uni kids and others who have a life and goddamn jobs, i guess. and you are saying they are not legit because they don't donate a lot of money, or don't go to Gaza. That's ridiculous. Sure there could be some, probably are who in their own minds are using the protests as an anti-Democrat effort, there are always agent provocateurs in every large protest. But shit, in saying what you said there you are demeaning and deriding all of the protestors. Your stance sounds more like an arrogant adult attitude than anything else.
The imbalance between numbers of fatalities and injuries and suffering of the two sides of Netanyahu's war against all Palestinians puts a nonsense, just more rationalization tag, to your
"The genocide I see is by the Hamas leaders who have become billionaires by stealing aid money from their people, starving them and depriving them of medical supplies, and are using those same people as shields in a war while their brave fighters hide underground in tunnels. "
That's ridiculous. And not that it is much relevant at all but you really have to provide a link to support your billionaires claims. I can't find one.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67103298 .
This Israeli has a much more insightful, caring and responsible approach to Israel than you have:
Is it true or not? Israeli group FakeReporter fact checks while seeking shelter
October 26, 2023 9:00 AM ET
Bobby Allyn
Achiya Schatz runs an organization in Israel called FakeReporter that authenticates images and videos that appear online in order to combat fake news. The group was founded three years ago. Before the war, it was focused on trying to help people who were targeted with online harassment for speaking out against corruption. Claire Harbage/NPR
Achiya Schatz walked into the kitchen and saw his mother-in-law standing there in tears.
Schatz, his pregnant partner, their toddler daughter, and two other Israeli families had fled the violence of the war, putting eleven under one roof at the home of his in-laws outside of Tel Aviv.
The house became a cacophony of screaming children, frantic phone calls and emergency Zoom meetings. Sometimes all three families are forced to seek shelter together from rocket attacks.
Yet what most rattled his mother-in-law were the unsettling images of children in cages.
"I asked her, 'what happened?' And she said I just saw a horrible video of babies in cages," Schatz said.
Sponsor Message
Not only did he immediately know that she was referring to deceptive footage, but the organization he runs, FakeReporter, was the first to show that the video portrayed something else entirely. The clip had been posted online months before Hamas attacked Israel, though the footage's exact origins remain the subject of online debate.
"This is a video that we refuted, " he told his mother-in-law. "It's a lie. It's fake."
Those words — "It's a lie. It's a fake"— are uttered quite a bit these days by Schatz and his associates ever since the Hamas-Israel war broke out, unleashing an informational war online.
From West Bank combat soldier to war fact-checker
More - https://www.npr.org/2023/10/26/1208179128/is-it-true-or-not-israeli-group-fakereporter-fact-checks-while-seeking-shelter
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