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Re: hap0206 post# 482300

Monday, 07/01/2024 11:12:04 PM

Monday, July 01, 2024 11:12:04 PM

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hap0206, How many times has your fraudulent votes been debunked for you? Yet you repeatedly repeatedly, yes that many times, repeat your lie. This time you made another mistake, you shortchanged Trump. One more below your:

"Very few of the 69 cases were tried on their merits -- most were dismissed for lack of standing or other legal disqualifications -- Biden -- 81 million votes -- more than any other president ever -- Trump 67 million votes -- more than any other president ever -- wonder where those votes came from -- mail-in pallets w/o creases -- wonder how the PO delivered them -- be nice to know "

Fact check: Over 159 million people voted in the US general election

Related:
2016 Clinton 66 million Trump 63 million
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election
2020 Biden 81 million Trump 74 million
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election

Noted: In a more standard voting scenario Trump would never have been president.

Adrienne Dunn
USA TODAY

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The claim: There are just 133 million registered voters in the US

The 2020 election season saw record voter turnout across the country. President-elect Joe Biden now holds the record for the most votes received by a presidential candidate, after getting more than 81 million.

Despite losing dozens of lawsuits and the Electoral College's certification of Biden's win, President Donald Trump's campaign and others continue to promote falsehoods about the credibility and security of the election.

A Dec. 21 Facebook post, which pulled a screenshot of a Twitter post, claimed Biden somehow received 22 million phantom votes. The post has over 1,200 shares, as of Dec. 30.

"Simple math: Trump got 74 million votes and there are only 133 million registered voters in the USA," the tweet claims. "Even if everyone who's registered actually voted, there would only be 59 million votes left for Biden. So how the hell did Biden get 81 million votes? 22 million extra?"

The Facebook user who made that particular post has not returned a request for comment from USA TODAY.

Another Facebook user made the same claim without pulling a screenshot from Twitter. USA TODAY has also reached out to this user for comment.

And the Twitter account MSM Fact Checking posted a similar claim on Dec. 18, from which many viral Facebook posts stem.

In a follow-up tweet, the MSM Fact Checking Twitter account tries to show its math: "Just to clarify there were 213,799,485 registered voters in 2020 of which conflicting sources say turnout was between 60% - 65%. I averaged it out at 62.5% which means just over 133,500,000 registered voters voted. 74,000,000 Trump + 81,000,000 Biden = 155,000,000."

And then, "Just for complete transparency, even at 65% turnout the total would be just over 138,000,000 voters resulting in over 155,000,000 votes. However you look at it, it doesn't add up."

The MSM Fact Checking account has its direct messaging turned off so it could not be reached for comment.

Fact check: After endorsing him, New York Post now pushes Trump to accept Biden's victory
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/12/29/fact-check-ny-post-encourages-trump-accept-bidens-victory/4075001001/

Voter registration and turnout totals

The post is correct in its accounting of Trump's vote totals. He received more than 74 million votes. The vote total for Biden, 81 million, also is correct, putting the overall total at more than 155 million votes cast.

What the tweets get wrong is the number of voters. There are more than 234 million people eligible to vote in the U.S. Not all of those people are registered voters, however.

In its thread of tweets, the account MSM Fact Checking provided conflicting calculations without citing sources. The initial post claimed there were 133 million registered voters. In another tweet, it claimed there were 213 million registered voters with a voter turnout rate of 62.5%. All of these numbers are false.

We know, after weeks of counting, that there were roughly 159 million ballots cast in the presidential election. According to the Election Project, this accounts for 66.7% of the eligible voting population of 239 million Americans..

The U.S. Census Bureau publishes voter registration totals for the nation; its 2020 numbers are not yet available.

But for example, in the 2016 presidential election, there were 157 million registered voters. Of those, 137.5 million voted. And there were 224 million American citizens age 18 or older. All figures are higher than the number in the claim regarding the 2020 election, when voter registration and turnout broke records.

Fact check: No, Joe Biden's brother-in-law does not own Dominion Voting Systems
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/12/24/fact-check-bidens-brother-law-doesnt-own-dominion-voting-systems/4015891001/

Our ruling: Partly false

The claim in the post is rated PARTLY FALSE. The tweet that appears in viral Facebook posts cites correct vote totals for Trump (74 million) and Biden (81 million). But it falsely reports the number of registered voters. More than 159 million registered voters cast ballots in the general election, out of 239 million eligible voters. So it is completely possible that Trump and Biden would post that many total votes.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/12/30/fact-check-fals-president-than-were-registered-u-s/4010087001/

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