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Re: livefree_ordie post# 471529

Wednesday, 04/24/2024 8:36:38 AM

Wednesday, April 24, 2024 8:36:38 AM

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So Vance is yet another Putin apologist. His editorial is from 4/12/24, plenty of time for his Sen. colleagues and GOP House members to have read or at least heard about it. I found it as unpersuasive as most of those who voted for the aid packages found it.

So did most of those who commented on his opinion piece in the NYT. One such.....

Afghanistan won against the USSR and USSR had more men and equipment.

The facts are, not only will Western tech and training defeat the Russian terrorist war criminal, it's the right thing to do.

The US has a massive stockpile of equipment they could be sending to UA; much of which is due to be decommissioned. Apart from that the US has massive stockpiles and they are not at war.

The allies of the US in Europe i.e. NATO countries have been sounding the alarm and meeting with congress and the senate.

The MAGA crowd have blocking the aid package have caused UA to lose men, material and ground. Their inaction has been a gift to the Russians and a major hindrance to Ukraine's defense.

At best, MAGA are appeasers and at worst they are literally supporting Putin.

I can imagine Trump would love to install a putin like government here, controlling the judiciary and assassinating or imprisoning any and all dissenters and enemies.

Is this where the USA is heading?


The companies on this list would no doubt be surprised by 'Remember we do not make most of our own weapons any longer and we outsource them to other Countries', a statement which is not in Vance's editorial.

List of modern armament manufacturers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_armament_manufacturers
U.S.

AeroVironment
American Derringer
AM General
ArmaLite
Axon
Barrett Firearms Manufacturing
Beemiller Inc. (trading name as Hi-Point Firearms)
Black Hills Ammunition
Boeing Defense, Space & Security (BDS)
Bollinger Shipyards
Bond Arms Inc.
Brunswick Boat Group
Calico Light Weapons Systems (CLWS)
Charter Arms
CheyTac
Colt's Manufacturing Company
Combined Systems
Cooper Firearms (trading name as Cooper Firearms)
Day & Zimmermann
Daniel Defense
Dead Air Silencers
Derecktor Shipyards
Desert Tech
Freedom Arms
General Atomics
General Dynamics
Gladding-Hearn Shipbuilding
GM Defense
Gravois Aluminum Boats (trading as Metal Shark Boats)
Harris Gunworks
Henry Repeating Arms
Hodgdon Yachts
Honeywell
Hornady Manufacturing Company
Huntington Ingalls Industries
Ithaca Gun Company
Kahr Arms
Kaman Aerospace
Kel-Tec
Kimber Manufacturing
Knight's Armament Company
L3Harris Technologies
Lehigh Defense
Les Baer
Lewis Machine & Tool Company
Lockheed Martin
LWRC International
MD Helicopters
Navistar International
North American Arms
Northrop Grumman
Nosler
Noveske Rifleworks
OF Mossberg & Sons
Olin Corporation
Olympic Arms
Oshkosh Corporation
Palmetto State Armory
Patriot Ordnance Factory
Polaris Industries
Raytheon Technologies
Rock River Arms
Safariland
SAFE Boats International
Savage Arms
Science Applications International Corporation
Serbu Firearms
Sierra Bullets
Sierra Nevada Corporation
SilencerCo
Smith & Wesson
Springfield Armory
Strategic Armory Corps
Strayer Voigt Inc (brand name Infinity Firearms)
Sturm, Ruger
Swiftships
Textron
Troy Industries
U.S. Ordnance
Vista Outdoor
Weatherby

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