Re "i'm sure Jim received some PPP money?" Yes. I thought he received two PPP loans, but at the moment I can only find info about one of them: https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/WEST-COAST-VENTURES-GROUP-120796090/news/WEST-COAST-VENTURES-Management-s-Discussion-and-Analysis-of-Financial-Condition-and-Results-of-Ope-31146324/ The above info also said he received other grants.