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Re: fuagf post# 467021

Monday, 03/18/2024 7:32:05 PM

Monday, March 18, 2024 7:32:05 PM

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If you let a bully, bully people (Putin) all the other bullies see it....unintended consequence maybe, but real all the same...And it even started as early as Georgia with Bush and Crimea with Obama,,,,,,,,,The Ukraine invasion should have been the line in the sand.....

When the world, especially the US and UK, stood back and let Putin invade Ukraine, they sent a message not only to Putin but every dictator in the world........

Not to mention no country in the world in its right mind would ever sign a security agreement with the US (or UK) again and have any confidence that we'd keep it after we get what we want......

Why Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons — and what that means in an invasion by Russia
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/21/1082124528/ukraine-russia-putin-invasion

Thousands of nuclear arms had been left on Ukrainian soil by Moscow after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. But in the years that followed, Ukraine made the decision to completely denuclearize.

In exchange, the U.S., the U.K. and Russia would guarantee Ukraine's security in a 1994 agreement known as the Budapest Memorandum.


On to say you can't just give speeches and sound tough with no teeth and think dictators will cower in fear....

Biden's, (The US's) latest red line is Navaloly,,,,,Tough talk didn't stop Putin from killing him did it....Saying 'Don't' didn't stop the Houthis (nor did Biden's meagre deterrence).... Think Biden's (The US) new red line with Netanyahu is going to stop 'him?

The most hollow speech ever given by a US president


Agree Ukraine has demonstrated Putin's military is not what many believed it to be. Still, no one except a couple of crazies, no not you,
wants that big a war. It would be world again. In that case i think China would likely make even more aggressive moves in their region too.


It wouldn't have been the world at the beginning of Ukraine, might well be now since the Dictators have formed an unwritten alliance of their own and they certainly smell weakness......They continue unabated as we bog ourselves down in politics and bureaucracy.....

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