Thursday, March 14, 2024 9:31:12 PM
livefree_ordie: This post is to your ego-boosting bullshit about warning this board. After reading these and any and all of the before and after stream they are in, from nine years ago, perhaps then you might just post your articles without your repeat ego-boosting bs. These from 2015-'16:
Alphabet’s Eric Schmidt: The design of AI should “avoid undesirable outcomes”
[...]
F6, i totally acknowledge and accept i will always be a relative outside observer in the AI/ASI area .. still, i don't understand the certainty of your
"they completely fail to even acknowledge, let alone address, in any way or sense, the brutal and absolute inevitability that any AI/ASI (far) more intelligent and capable than we are, including whatever such may come of their effort, will, quickly, go from doing (just) what we want/tell it to do, to doing what it decides to do (whether we like it or not) -- we're already deep into building autonomous situationally-aware/analytical decision-making into the already emergent systems which already exist (in particular but without limitation in the development of autonomous weapons systems)"
.. again, i agree, that logic is strong and it's not easy to see it not as a certainty .. seems your "brutal inevitably" is the pivotal point .. seems their public position anyway is that they don't agree with the certainty of yours, rather they believe there is a chance that AI/ASI can be managed .. lol, seriously it's hard for me, when i really don't know, to believe that Musk and all of them privately believe it is already too late to avert the takeover which you think they all - if i get that right - must privately accept .. again, it would be interesting to see what Musk's, and the others, reply would be to your thinking on that ..
More .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=119360721
In reply F6 said:
fuagf -- Schmidt (along with any head honcho at his precious little pet think tank) definitely knows better (again, [linked in] http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=119306521 [and preceding and following]) -- he's a long-standing shameless liar about this
those three 'principles' he and his think tank butt-buddy say folks 'should' follow are absolutely transparently the utterly empty and vapid feel-good gibberish, i.e. total bullshit (and do see [linked in] http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=119029379 ["Study Finds People Who Fall For Nonsense Inspirational Quotes Are Less Intelligent"]), put up as a smokescreen by two guys who no way no how are ever gonna say what they really know/think about this -- they've made their bet, and their decision to just absolutely not give even the least bit of a flying fuck about the inevitable downside, just too damned much fun to be had and money and power to be amassed as at least one of the leaders in this -- putting that stuff forth to try to deflect the attention that has come to the issue, they're sniggering through their teeth at those of the rest of us who don't also know better
if they were honest about this and what they damned well know it portends, and took the position they take anyway, fine, fair enough -- but trying to blow that smoke up our butts? -- oh fuck off
No more - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=119362311
My reply nine years ago to Mark's there:
The AI Revolution: Our Immortality or Extinction
thanks, i had wondering feelings about the three 'principles', just
am not clear enough on it all, yet .. heh, doubting if i will ever be ..
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=119362503
Mark's (F6) two replies to that one:
Terrifying season’s greetings from our future robot overlords and their makers
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=119397889
The computer that mastered Go
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=120159431
There and around there is a year's reading for you. Again, free free to post your articles with comment
just please consider not blowing your horn by taking credit for warning the board about dangers of A.I.
Mark did more on that here than you have ever read.
"...Too funny heads full of wood. You think timely like our Government has reacted to this tragedy about to unfold amongst us. SAG agreement Great job now what!!! Nothing going to happen because no human will be the blame. Untraceable to a human. Perhaps some folks have not really grasped tge aspect of this technology here. Whatever to each their own fairy tales here."
Ans also, not that it bothers anyone much to see you constantly knock others here. It's just
so out of touch, and is boring as hell to read. You can fuck off with that habit of yours too.
Alphabet’s Eric Schmidt: The design of AI should “avoid undesirable outcomes”
[...]
F6, i totally acknowledge and accept i will always be a relative outside observer in the AI/ASI area .. still, i don't understand the certainty of your
"they completely fail to even acknowledge, let alone address, in any way or sense, the brutal and absolute inevitability that any AI/ASI (far) more intelligent and capable than we are, including whatever such may come of their effort, will, quickly, go from doing (just) what we want/tell it to do, to doing what it decides to do (whether we like it or not) -- we're already deep into building autonomous situationally-aware/analytical decision-making into the already emergent systems which already exist (in particular but without limitation in the development of autonomous weapons systems)"
.. again, i agree, that logic is strong and it's not easy to see it not as a certainty .. seems your "brutal inevitably" is the pivotal point .. seems their public position anyway is that they don't agree with the certainty of yours, rather they believe there is a chance that AI/ASI can be managed .. lol, seriously it's hard for me, when i really don't know, to believe that Musk and all of them privately believe it is already too late to avert the takeover which you think they all - if i get that right - must privately accept .. again, it would be interesting to see what Musk's, and the others, reply would be to your thinking on that ..
More .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=119360721
In reply F6 said:
fuagf -- Schmidt (along with any head honcho at his precious little pet think tank) definitely knows better (again, [linked in] http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=119306521 [and preceding and following]) -- he's a long-standing shameless liar about this
those three 'principles' he and his think tank butt-buddy say folks 'should' follow are absolutely transparently the utterly empty and vapid feel-good gibberish, i.e. total bullshit (and do see [linked in] http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=119029379 ["Study Finds People Who Fall For Nonsense Inspirational Quotes Are Less Intelligent"]), put up as a smokescreen by two guys who no way no how are ever gonna say what they really know/think about this -- they've made their bet, and their decision to just absolutely not give even the least bit of a flying fuck about the inevitable downside, just too damned much fun to be had and money and power to be amassed as at least one of the leaders in this -- putting that stuff forth to try to deflect the attention that has come to the issue, they're sniggering through their teeth at those of the rest of us who don't also know better
if they were honest about this and what they damned well know it portends, and took the position they take anyway, fine, fair enough -- but trying to blow that smoke up our butts? -- oh fuck off
No more - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=119362311
My reply nine years ago to Mark's there:
The AI Revolution: Our Immortality or Extinction
thanks, i had wondering feelings about the three 'principles', just
am not clear enough on it all, yet .. heh, doubting if i will ever be ..
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=119362503
Mark's (F6) two replies to that one:
Terrifying season’s greetings from our future robot overlords and their makers
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=119397889
The computer that mastered Go
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=120159431
There and around there is a year's reading for you. Again, free free to post your articles with comment
just please consider not blowing your horn by taking credit for warning the board about dangers of A.I.
Mark did more on that here than you have ever read.
"...Too funny heads full of wood. You think timely like our Government has reacted to this tragedy about to unfold amongst us. SAG agreement Great job now what!!! Nothing going to happen because no human will be the blame. Untraceable to a human. Perhaps some folks have not really grasped tge aspect of this technology here. Whatever to each their own fairy tales here."
Ans also, not that it bothers anyone much to see you constantly knock others here. It's just
so out of touch, and is boring as hell to read. You can fuck off with that habit of yours too.
It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”
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