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Your not wrong B4 and good points. I suppose I would want a side by side comparison before I buy as Newmed says.

I'm sure some of the more informed posters here have that information at hand and R. Nader is long gone but fwiw:

How many presidents have been elected on promises to stamp out lobbyist, reign in corps and their money that overwhelm DC then lead for all people...

Several presidents throughout history have campaigned on promises to address the influence of lobbyists, rein in corporate power, and govern for the benefit of all people. However, the extent to which they fulfilled these promises can vary, and the issue of money in politics remains a complex and ongoing challenge. Here are a few examples:

Jimmy Carter campaigned on a platform of reducing the influence of money in politics and promoting government accountability during his 1976 presidential campaign. He emphasized his commitment to ethics and transparency in government.

Barack Obama campaigned on a message of hope and change in 2008, promising to reduce the influence of lobbyists and special interests in Washington. He advocated for campaign finance reform and sought to limit the role of corporate money in politics.

Donald Trump ran for president in 2016 as an outsider candidate who promised to "drain the swamp" in Washington, D.C. He criticized the influence of lobbyists and corporate interests in government and pledged to prioritize the interests of ordinary Americans.

Joe Biden campaigned for the presidency in 2020 with a message of unity and restoring the soul of the nation. He emphasized the need to address systemic issues, including the influence of money in politics, and pledged to govern in a way that benefits all Americans, not just the wealthy or powerful interests.

While these presidents made efforts to address the influence of lobbyists and corporate power to varying degrees, the issue remains deeply entrenched in American politics, and progress in reforming campaign finance laws and reducing the influence of money in politics has been incremental at best.

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